Labour party suspend Jeremy Corbyn

[City123]

I also think it's further proof that anyone with a hint of socialist leanings getting anywhere near the position of being in charge of a government will be squashed by the establishment. No party leader had the attacks on him that Corbyn did. It's also very rare for someone of Corbyn's profile to be put in the position he was.

Politics is a dirty business. Don't fight the establishment.

Its incredible to me that a huge swathe of the country bought a lot of the shit that was peddled about Corbyn. Was he perfect? Of course not, but he's not the Antichrist he was portrayed to be for offering fairly sensible socialist policies.

Yesterday pretty much confirmed there won't be another left of centre government in the UK for at least another generation

[Tuerto]

Its incredible to me that a huge swathe of the country bought a lot of the shit that was peddled about Corbyn. Was he perfect? Of course not, but he's not the Antichrist he was portrayed to be for offering fairly sensible socialist policies.

Yesterday pretty much confirmed there won't be another left of centre government in the UK for at least another generation

I think it's because of an incessant hysterical right wing media who have been allowed to get away with it because it suits the bosses and big business. We also have huge swathes of people who seem influenced by reactionary jingoistic 2 liners on social media, add to that, personality politics. Plenty of cretins seem at home in accepting Boris as a 'bit of a boy' bumbling nut funny, i really think that some people chose their politics based on who they'd prefer to go on the piss with. Corbyn is portrayed as non patriotic, a friend of terrorists, a champion of scroungers and snowflakes,scruffy, boring etc. His policies couldn't really be discussed or analysed by those who bought into all of that, because it may have meant that they had to sit down and read a balanced article, then make an informed decision.

Corbyn even had his own parliamentary party against him, many of them to the right or careerists with absolutely zero appetite in fighting for working class people and improving their lives. He's not even close to being far left, he's a soft socialist. It speaks volumes that he's seen that way.

[City123]

I think it's because of an incessant hysterical right wing media who have been allowed to get away with it because it suits the bosses and big business. We also have huge swathes of people who seem influenced by reactionary jingoistic 2 liners on social media, add to that, personality politics. Plenty of cretins seem at home in accepting Boris as a 'bit of a boy' bumbling nut funny, i really think that some people chose their politics based on who they'd prefer to go on the piss with. Corbyn is portrayed as non patriotic, a friend of terrorists, a champion of scroungers and snowflakes,scruffy, boring etc. His policies couldn't really be discussed or analysed by those who bought into all of that, because it may have meant that they had to sit down and read a balanced article, then make an informed decision.

Corbyn even had his own parliamentary party against him, many of them to the right or careerists with absolutely zero appetite in fighting for working class people and improving their lives. He's not even close to being far left, he's a soft socialist. It speaks volumes that he's seen that way.

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

[the other bob wilson]

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Sorry, I disagree, I don't class myself as on the right of the Labour party politically, but the need to "get the Tories out" takes priority every time over any desire to nobble the left or right wing of Labour. for me. Someone texted Radio Five's breakfast programme this morning to say that they joined the Labour party to try to ensure that people like Starmer never became its leader again - for me, that sort of attitude sums up what has been wrong about Labour for virtually all of my lifetime (certainly for as long as I have been able to vote).

[Tuerto]

I know, I just don't get how people can't see through it. Surely at some point in a 5 year hate campaign you stop and ask yourself "Why are they doing this? What do they have to gain from it?".

The right of the Labour Party perceive the left as their real enemy and always have. Any real change threatens them. All I see from them is "we need to get the Tories out". I agree, but just getting them out isn't good enough. A Labour government should be a means to an end, not an end in itself.

Well said. This is what it has come down to. Protecting the rich and more affluent, in some cases apologising for them. We even have fair minded people with a social conscience accepting that Labour needs to be right wing in order to gain the trust of the electorate.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Well said. This is what it has come down to. Protecting the rich and more affluent, in some cases apologising for them. We even have fair minded people with a social conscience accepting that Labour needs to be right wing in order to gain the trust of the electorate.

Labour need to be centerist to gain power . We have a far better chance of getting left of centre politics implemented with someone like starmer or nandy in charge than corbyn . A socialist party will never be elected in this country , I would like to see it , but its never going to happen .

I would like to see a stronger Liberal party so between us we can kick the feck into the tories and not stand in certain seats

Those people in Bridgend who voted tory will soon regret it

[robjohn44]

Labour need to be centerist to gain power . We have a far better chance of getting left of centre politics implemented with someone like starmer or nandy in charge than corbyn . A socialist party will never be elected in this country , I would like to see it , but its never going to happen .

I would like to see a stronger Liberal party so between us we can kick the feck into the tories and not stand in certain seats

Those people in Bridgend who voted tory will soon regret it

the problem with all the parties is this.

the tories have no conservatives anymore
the liberals are totally illiberal
and labour doesn't give a shit about the white working class anymore