What leave voters voted for?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Norway, Canada ++ etc, the public did not vote for any of those abstract things, none of them things was on the ballot paper, the ballot paper said ''Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?, all the leave voters I know, wanted out, plain and simple just like the question asked, none of them wanted out with a deal.

But how many people knew what leaving with or without out a deal really meant? I can't recall many people discussing the detail of the effects of tariffs, the Northern Ireland problem or anything else about the economic ramifications of leaving. You only have to see the vox-pop street interviews on TV to know that there was (and still is) hardly any real understanding of the subject.

[trampie09]

But how many people knew what leaving with or without out a deal really meant? I can't recall many people discussing the detail of the effects of tariffs, the Northern Ireland problem or anything else about the economic ramifications of leaving. You only have to see the vox-pop street interviews on TV to know that there was (and still is) hardly any real understanding of the subject.

Exactly Taunton Blue Genie, yet all the leavers lardy knows seemingly knew exactly what the effects would be, but they still wanted to leave with something known as the Norway deal - very impressive politicking, all the leavers voters i know, knew jack sh*t about any possible ramifications and had little understanding of the subject.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Exactly Taunton Blue Genie, yet all the leavers lardy knows seemingly knew exactly what the effects would be, but they still wanted to leave with something known as the Norway deal - very impressive politicking, all the leavers voters i know, knew jack sh*t about any possible ramifications and had little understanding of the subject.

I had a couple of pet lemmings who were a bit like your friends...often wonder what happened to them?

As far as your position is concerned what do you mean by no deal? Is it chuck the Withdrawal Agreement in the bin and break all ties with the EU for ever and a day? Trade on WTO terms, opt out of Open Sky agreements, security and policing, medicinal regulation etc?

If it is all of these then fair enough. If it is not and you want some kind of working relationship with the EU in the future after the "benefits" of no deal are considered by some to be insufficient. You and your mates could be horrified that for the next few years of our existence (whilst we negotiate super deals with the rest of the world) then we will concurrently going back to the EU from our island redoubt seeking............well a deal!

[RonnieBird]

I had a couple of pet lemmings who were a bit like your friends...often wonder what happened to them?

As far as your position is concerned what do you mean by no deal? Is it chuck the Withdrawal Agreement in the bin and break all ties with the EU for ever and a day? Trade on WTO terms, opt out of Open Sky agreements, security and policing, medicinal regulation etc?

If it is all of these then fair enough. If it is not and you want some kind of working relationship with the EU in the future after the "benefits" of no deal are considered by some to be insufficient. You and your mates could be horrified that for the next few years of our existence (whilst we negotiate super deals with the rest of the world) then we will concurrently going back to the EU from our island redoubt seeking............well a deal!

It's just leaving. After that we do or don't sort out deals with Europe. A question of nationalism you see.
There's no point in you fretting about what deals they do or don't cut, because they certainly will not consult you.
Politicians will do what suits them best in terms of personal gain, because they're the worst sort of criminals, and all their victims - the electorate- get to decide is the limits we impose on their crookery.
In this case we insist that they keep it in house and don't forge money making links with foreign politicians or companies.
This fortune telling about the effects of future events is nothing more than the apparently never ending Project Fear, which is the only argument they have, and which you repeat because you think it makes you look clever to be in agreement with these "clever" people.
They're only laughing at you though Cyril, and they won't reward you if they win.

[trampie09]

I had a couple of pet lemmings who were a bit like your friends...often wonder what happened to them?

As far as your position is concerned what do you mean by no deal? Is it chuck the Withdrawal Agreement in the bin and break all ties with the EU for ever and a day? Trade on WTO terms, opt out of Open Sky agreements, security and policing, medicinal regulation etc?

If it is all of these then fair enough. If it is not and you want some kind of working relationship with the EU in the future after the "benefits" of no deal are considered by some to be insufficient. You and your mates could be horrified that for the next few years of our existence (whilst we negotiate super deals with the rest of the world) then we will concurrently going back to the EU from our island redoubt seeking............well a deal!

They just want out, they wanted Porthcawl to do with Johnny Foreigner, headlines after the vote spoke about leave voters being “old, racist and stupid”, its English nationalism, they want the Empire back, they don't want anything to do with countries they had been at war with, rule Britannia and all that.

[cyril evans awaydays]

They just want out, they wanted Porthcawl to do with Johnny Foreigner, headlines after the vote spoke about leave voters being “old, racist and stupid”, its English nationalism, they want the Empire back, they don't want anything to do with countries they had been at war with, rule Britannia and all that.

The first bit was about them. The rest of the questions were to you.

[trampie09]

The first bit was about them. The rest of the questions were to you.

I didn't vote leave.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Exactly Taunton Blue Genie, yet all the leavers lardy knows seemingly knew exactly what the effects would be, but they still wanted to leave with something known as the Norway deal - very impressive politicking, all the leavers voters i know, knew jack sh*t about any possible ramifications and had little understanding of the subject.

Good lord, no anti-English sentiment from you in that post.

[trampie09]

Good lord, no anti-English sentiment from you in that post.

If the cap fits, cant fault Frank Lampard, Yorkshire pudding, Helen Mirren or Cherie Lunghi.