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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Allez Allez Allez View Post
    Woah, hang on. You have to remember that there were people vaccinated on December 8th who had their second doses cancelled. These people will need a second vaccine within a few weeks and the Welsh Government has decided not to play the lottery by mixing vaccines. So, this has to be managed. It's all well and good to say "give 250,000 doses as quick as possible", but in 12 weeks time have people whose immunity has expired because they have not had a second dose because of shortages.
    No-ones immunity will have expired in 12 weeks.

    The next delivery of Pfizer vaccine is due in late January or early February.

    There are only a tiny number of people who received vaccination in the 1st half of December and they won’t be due their second vaccination until potentially the 1st half of March.

    Meanwhile somewhere in Wales 250,000 doses of vaccine sit on a shelf.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    No-ones immunity will have expired in 12 weeks.

    The next delivery of Pfizer vaccine is due in late January or early February.

    There are only a tiny number of people who received vaccination in the 1st half of December and they won’t be due their second vaccination until potentially the 1st half of March.

    Meanwhile somewhere in Wales 250,000 doses of vaccine sit on a shelf.
    They have made a decision to use the Oxford vaccine in GP surgeries etc whilst using the Pfizer jab at mass vaccination centres. Seems there aren't enough of these to use up the Pfizer vaccine so unbelievably it sits on the shelf. People who have already had a jab will in reality be in the queue for a second from around Mid Feb ( around 10 weeks as they can't leave it all to the last minute). So from then on an increasing volume of patients will be repeats, around 10,000 a week.

    They have missed the opportunity to get as many vaccinated as soon as possible which was the logic in delaying the second dose.

    As for immunity at 12 weeks, who knows? Pfizer have said that they cannot be responsible for the efficacy of their vaccine unless a repeat is given three weeks after the first dose.

    As far as pharmacies are concerned, unless they can do a significant number of injections a day forget them. These vaccines have a 6 hour life once a dose has been taken from a vial, and the Oxford jab has 10 doses per vial and comes as a 10 vial box. The press compares it to the flu campaigns but it is nothing like the flu vaccine which comes as a ready to use single dose syringe, and they can do a couple a day.

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    Re: How Many Vaccines In Wales Today ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Delbert View Post
    No-ones immunity will have expired in 12 weeks.

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    Apologies, I didn't realise there were clinical trials that showed that. What is the efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine after 12 weeks? And the Oxford one?

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