Cardiff Council are killing the City.

[Der Kaiser]

This thread is a congregation of over the hill, 1980s thinking, backward, boring, unimaginative men.



Cities, at least decent ones at that, are more and more being designed NOT for cars. The future is now. If they're taking advantage of the situation to force through some progressive utilisation of space then sod it. The city more than survives fine when the street is shut on the umpteen days a year castle street (and a few others!) is shut for events. People have travelled to city and town centres since their inception, i'm not sure castle street, the cities most visually appealing street being closed will scare people off.

Covid or the internet might put people off coming in, a road closure won't. Road closures in the majority of cases don't affect high street trade.

Castle Street should be utilised as a place to socialise, not for pollution and through traffic. Sorry if that doesn't fit personal agendas, people will still travel if they chose to make it a permanent, semi permanent or seasonal arrangement.

[Bluebird23]

I can’t be bothered to read all 10 pages of this thread, so apologies if this has already been covered.

Cardiff has the fourth worst air quality in the UK, and the area outside the castle is the most polluted in the City.

The council have been looking to do this for a while, and the virus has given them the opportunity (see attached article from January of this year).

I was down there today, and I really like it, and hope it’s a big success.

Remember, people hated it when the council closed and pedestrianised Queen Street and St Mary Street, but it’s improved the city centre.

The big issue is, many people hate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51023304

[lisvaneblue]

I can’t be bothered to read all 10 pages of this thread, so apologies if this has already been covered.

Cardiff has the fourth worst air quality in the UK, and the area outside the castle is the most polluted in the City.

The council have been looking to do this for a while, and the virus has given them the opportunity (see attached article from January of this year).

I was down there today, and I really like it, and hope it’s a big success.

Remember, people hated it when the council closed and pedestrianised Queen Street and St Mary Street, but it’s improved the city centre.

The big issue is, many people hate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51023304

Castle St has been a thorn in the Council's side for a while now because of NO2 pollution caused by through traffic. The excuse to close the street gets them off the hook. Trouble is it just moves the problem somewhere else in the city, probably Western Avenue as there are now very limited bridges to cross the city, what with Castle st bridge and Wood st bridge closed to private vehicles.

Countering the city's desire to clean the air is our obsession with speed bumps. I've travelled all over UK and never come across anywhere like Cardiff for them. Each one makes cars, buses, lorries brake then accelerate increasing NO2 levels from exhausts and particulate matter from brakes.

And where do we have them?, outside schools, just crazy really. Most towns have illuminated signs warning motorists of schools and they have the advantage of only operating when schools are open. Our speed bumps are there 24/7

[xsnaggle]

I can’t be bothered to read all 10 pages of this thread, so apologies if this has already been covered.

Cardiff has the fourth worst air quality in the UK, and the area outside the castle is the most polluted in the City.

The council have been looking to do this for a while, and the virus has given them the opportunity (see attached article from January of this year).

I was down there today, and I really like it, and hope it’s a big success.

Remember, people hated it when the council closed and pedestrianised Queen Street and St Mary Street, but it’s improved the city centre.

The big issue is, many people hate change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-51023304

I'd argue that closing St Mary St helped. It certainly didn't help the buses or the businesses.

[Jordi Culé]

This thread is a congregation of over the hill, 1980s thinking, backward, boring, unimaginative men.



Cities, at least decent ones at that, are more and more being designed NOT for cars. The future is now. If they're taking advantage of the situation to force through some progressive utilisation of space then sod it. The city more than survives fine when the street is shut on the umpteen days a year castle street (and a few others!) is shut for events. People have travelled to city and town centres since their inception, i'm not sure castle street, the cities most visually appealing street being closed will scare people off.

Covid or the internet might put people off coming in, a road closure won't. Road closures in the majority of cases don't affect high street trade.

Castle Street should be utilised as a place to socialise, not for pollution and through traffic. Sorry if that doesn't fit personal agendas, people will still travel if they chose to make it a permanent, semi permanent or seasonal arrangement.

There’s some proper miserable ****ers on here.