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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    there's a big difference between the amount og control that westminster holds over the uk compared to brussels over europe
    If Wales was part of the EU it would be a small nation which was part of a larger union. It would also have laws made for it by officials in a capital city that wasn't Welsh.

    How does that differ from what we have now?

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    If Wales was part of the EU it would be a small nation which was part of a larger union. It would also have laws made for it by officials in a capital city that wasn't Welsh.

    How does that differ from what we have now?
    It isn't even comparable.

    Are you really suggesting that say the netherlands are as much controlled by the EU as we are by Westminster?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    It isn't even comparable.

    Are you really suggesting that say the netherlands are as much controlled by the EU as we are by Westminster?
    its all relative. We have devolution to decide matters than are more local in nature, and we have decisions made by Westminster that are more national in nature. and we had the EU for matters that were pan European.

    The Netherlands is sovereign, but many of its laws are based on directives and regulations from the EU, however it is up to the Dutch people on how they implement them.

    so in answer to your question, it depends.

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    Re: Political post.. @Yescymru

    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    If Wales was part of the EU it would be a small nation which was part of a larger union. It would also have laws made for it by officials in a capital city that wasn't Welsh.

    How does that differ from what we have now?
    I actually think small nations in the EU do better than Wales does vis-a-vis England. For instance, if Wales voted for a socialist government that's what it would get not a Tory one 150 miles away. Small nations are also over-represented in EU decision-making bodies.

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    I actually think small nations in the EU do better than Wales does vis-a-vis England. For instance, if Wales voted for a socialist government that's what it would get not a Tory one 150 miles away. Small nations are also over-represented in EU decision-making bodies.
    Wales has been a one party socialist state for 20+ years and we are falling further and further behind.

    What happens if Cardiff votes for a Lib-dem government but Wales votes Labour - should Cardiff seek independence as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TISS View Post
    Wales has been a one party socialist state for 20+ years and we are falling further and further behind.

    What happens if Cardiff votes for a Lib-dem government but Wales votes Labour - should Cardiff seek independence as well?
    You could argue that the UK has been a one party centre right state since 1979 if you consider that Blair's Labour moved the party to the right, ditching traditional Labour values and it has fallen behind other big nations in many ways. 7th largest economy and nose diving. Always rated poorly in basic standards of education and wealth divide, yet becoming more and more corrupt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    You could argue that the UK has been a one party centre right state since 1979 if you consider that Blair's Labour moved the party to the right, ditching traditional Labour values and it has fallen behind other big nations in many ways. 7th largest economy and nose diving. Always rated poorly in basic standards of education and wealth divide, yet becoming more and more corrupt.
    New Labour were centre left.

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