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    Heisenberg
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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Hard to answer this in a few sentences, it's a very good question. Not being flippant but it's not God's will that children ,or anyone for that matter, should die from prematurely from horrible disease. We are born into a world of suffering and pain, much of it manmade, much of it through our battles with nature and disease. You and I will suffer, have suffered, and the Bible's message is that God shares our pain in this world and offers comfort to those that seek it through him.

    I had a very good friend who died as a young adult leaving a wife and baby. He was a bricklayer by trade but gave it up to become a priest. He was a joy to be with and he honestly and openly took on board the suffering of his parishioners at a very personal level. He offered love, comfort and the promise of faith in the same way that Christians believe God does.

    He was a 'brittle' diabetic, hard to control and he knew he would be unlikely to live a long life. But he filled his life with purpose and love, and not once did he complain' why me'. Why didn't God save him you may ask? For what? To live a few more years with an increasing amount of suffering that is linked to his condition. We look at the physical, God at the spiritual and the answer might be wrapped up in that.

    I seem to be like someone trying to explain to you how a car engine works when you will find the complete answer by looking though the manual. And you know the manual I'm talking about...from the Greek it's called 'The Book'
    "Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

    Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

    I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

    I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

    Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

    I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

    I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?
    “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).
    David's psalms...you should read the background to them and then it may make sense.

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    David's psalms...you should read the background to them and then it may make sense.
    Tis all folklore. Very interesting in that respect but deities are for the birds.

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

    Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

    I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

    I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?
    There was a programme about Sandhurst on several years ago where one training officer described that (wording changed due to i) lack of miliarty knowledge and ii) years since it was on but to give the gist of it) everyone ends up praying in the trenches.

    If religion is used to provide reasonable comfort to the innocent child, as opposed to delusional hope or telling them they suffer because they hadn't said enough prayers, what is the harm? They may even become a morally stronger person, more charitable/kinder person because of it. Just means that roads are slightly busier on a Sunday morning and at other points in the week/year.

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

    Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

    I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

    I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?
    Why didn't you apply for the God job your always judging others from your heavenly keyboard .

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    Re: Songs Of Praise

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    "Why didn't God save him, you may ask..."

    Not really, as I was more interested in why your God chose to create this planet and allow millions of innocent children to suffer as a result.

    I've never seen anybody explain this in a way other than "it is what it is" basically. You have done the same.

    I've read The Bible by the way (well, the Old Testament anyway... The New Testament didn't have the enough theatrics to keep me entertained). I couldn't find the answers to why innocent children suffer as a consequence of simply being born... Which chapter and verse will provide that answer?
    Don't blame God for innocent children suffering, they are the worlds children and there is no reason why mankind should allow it.

    The way the world is birth/life means pain, disease, sorrow and death for each of us. We are told these are the fruits of sin and we know, whether believers or not, that love, kindness, compassion, understanding, forgiveness and truth are the ways to overcome sin. And I'd add humour to that because it is uniquely human. But the greatest of these is love..

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