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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Media Silent As Christopher Steele ‘Hero’ ‘Spymaster’ Narrative Crumbles

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/03...tive-crumbles/

    Guess what happens next??
    It turns out Christopher Steele wasn’t 007. ( I thought he would be the next Bond , bugger )

    For years, the media assured Americans that the dossier alleging treasonous collusion between Donald Trump and Russia was based on the scrupulous work of a mastermind British ex-spy and his vast network of credible and well-connected sources spread throughout Europe. It wasn’t true.

    Steele did not personally collect any of the factual information in his reports. The “vast network” was instead a “social circle” of an American-based former Brookings Institute junior staffer, recently identified for the first time as Igor Danchenko. The friends didn’t have well-documented claims so much as rumors, drunken gossip, and outright brainstorming, conjecture, and speculation. Even that information was “multiple layers of hearsay upon hearsay” before it got to Steele, who then hyperbolically overstated it. And the damning claims of “collusion” appear to have been scandalously misattributed or invented out of whole cloth.

    With such shoddy information collection and analysis methods, there was never any reason to give credence to any of the salacious allegations in the dossier, whether it was claims of secret deals with Russian oil concerns, secret meetings in foreign capitals, prostitutes urinating on Moscow hotel room beds, files of compromising information, or the careful cultivation of Trump, yes Trump, into the most effective Russian agent in history.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It turns out Christopher Steele wasn’t 007. ( I thought he would be the next Bond , bugger )

    For years, the media assured Americans that the dossier alleging treasonous collusion between Donald Trump and Russia was based on the scrupulous work of a mastermind British ex-spy and his vast network of credible and well-connected sources spread throughout Europe. It wasn’t true.

    Steele did not personally collect any of the factual information in his reports. The “vast network” was instead a “social circle” of an American-based former Brookings Institute junior staffer, recently identified for the first time as Igor Danchenko. The friends didn’t have well-documented claims so much as rumors, drunken gossip, and outright brainstorming, conjecture, and speculation. Even that information was “multiple layers of hearsay upon hearsay” before it got to Steele, who then hyperbolically overstated it. And the damning claims of “collusion” appear to have been scandalously misattributed or invented out of whole cloth.

    With such shoddy information collection and analysis methods, there was never any reason to give credence to any of the salacious allegations in the dossier, whether it was claims of secret deals with Russian oil concerns, secret meetings in foreign capitals, prostitutes urinating on Moscow hotel room beds, files of compromising information, or the careful cultivation of Trump, yes Trump, into the most effective Russian agent in history.
    Another copy and paste contribution from you without any acknowledgement
    https://www.allsides.com/news/2020-0...ative-crumbles

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    It turns out Christopher Steele wasn’t 007. ( I thought he would be the next Bond , bugger )

    For years, the media assured Americans that the dossier alleging treasonous collusion between Donald Trump and Russia was based on the scrupulous work of a mastermind British ex-spy and his vast network of credible and well-connected sources spread throughout Europe. It wasn’t true.

    Steele did not personally collect any of the factual information in his reports. The “vast network” was instead a “social circle” of an American-based former Brookings Institute junior staffer, recently identified for the first time as Igor Danchenko. The friends didn’t have well-documented claims so much as rumors, drunken gossip, and outright brainstorming, conjecture, and speculation. Even that information was “multiple layers of hearsay upon hearsay” before it got to Steele, who then hyperbolically overstated it. And the damning claims of “collusion” appear to have been scandalously misattributed or invented out of whole cloth.

    With such shoddy information collection and analysis methods, there was never any reason to give credence to any of the salacious allegations in the dossier, whether it was claims of secret deals with Russian oil concerns, secret meetings in foreign capitals, prostitutes urinating on Moscow hotel room beds, files of compromising information, or the careful cultivation of Trump, yes Trump, into the most effective Russian agent in history.

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    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    here we go his last throw , oh hang on he's calling for Biden to be tested

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...cognitive-test

    Will Joe come out to play soon , i'd love to see that cat fight on stage ?

    Their both barmy as feck 70 year old losing the plot

  5. #5

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    here we go his last throw , oh hang on he's calling for Biden to be tested

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...cognitive-test

    Will Joe come out to play soon , i'd love to see that cat fight on stage ?

    Their both barmy as feck 70 year old losing the plot
    lol... the American obsession with that old means good and family values and trustworthy... i see two farts near dementia

  6. #6

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    here we go his last throw , oh hang on he's calling for Biden to be tested

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...cognitive-test

    Will Joe come out to play soon , i'd love to see that cat fight on stage ?

    Their both barmy as feck 70 year old losing the plot
    That's an interesting view, given that Bidens team has committed to three debates in writing to the commission, and trump's team has committed to none.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    That's an interesting view, given that Bidens team has committed to three debates in writing to the commission, and trump's team has committed to none.
    As I was saying love to see the cat fight ??????????????/

  8. #8

    Re: The Donald Trump thread

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    As I was saying love to see the cat fight ??????????????/
    It was the 'come out to play' bit I was referring to. I assumed you were following the basement line of attack.

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