Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[LeningradCowboy]

What's that got to do with anything? The point here is that specialist shops were forced to close first time around while supermarkets carried on selling the goods they traded in - that's discrimination and something should be done about it, the problem was that a term like "non essential goods" was never going to be precise enough to ensure this happened.

Maybe it would have been better if the type of shops that had to close were listed and supermarkets told they couldn't sell the goods these shops specialised in?

Aren't you still discriminating against specialist high street shops if online shops can continue to sell the same goods?

[the other bob wilson]

Aren't you still discriminating against specialist high street shops if online shops can continue to sell the same goods?

In a way yes, but this is specifically about shops whereby you were allowed to go into a supermarket and, say, buy a football in the spring, but not allowed to go into a specialist sports shop to do the same thing. The specialist sport shop proprietor knows that there is on line competition seven days a week/fifty two weeks a year, but in the spring, they were not allowed to compete against them or the supermarkets that sold sports goods - the current closures are not perfect for them of course, but, at least, some of the competition would not have the unfair advantage they enjoyed in the spring.

[LeningradCowboy]

In a way yes, but this is specifically about shops whereby you were allowed to go into a supermarket and, say, buy a football in the spring, but not allowed to go into a specialist sports shop to do the same thing. The specialist sport shop proprietor knows that there is on line competition seven days a week/fifty two weeks a year, but in the spring, they were not allowed to compete against them or the supermarkets that sold sports goods - the current closures are not perfect for them of course, but, at least, some of the competition would not have the unfair advantage they enjoyed in the spring.

So why don't you want to remove the unfair advantage from all the competition?

[the other bob wilson]

So why don't you want to remove the unfair advantage from all the competition?

Because, as I said earlier, it's all about keeping contact between people in shops down as low as possible - even if it could be done, stopping online sales in a situation where the aim is to cut numbers in shops and the amount of time people spend in them would be ludicrous, is that what you're proposing?

[LeningradCowboy]

Because, as I said earlier, it's all about keeping contact between people in shops down as low as possible - even if it could be done, stopping online sales in a situation where the aim is to cut numbers in shops and the amount of time people spend in them would be ludicrous, is that what you're proposing?

Didn't you write that the logic behind the decision was to stop small shops being discriminated against?

[the other bob wilson]

I thought you wrote that the logic behind the decision was to stop small shops being discriminated against?

Round and round in circles because you want to score party political points - I said that I could understand the logic whereby they didn't want to see smaller, independent traders discriminated against like they were first time around because supermarkets had an unfair advantage over them. Nothing you're saying is making me think I was wrong in thinking that (quite the opposite in fact).

Therefore, there's no point in continuing this discussion.

[lisvaneblue]

Round and round in circles because you want to score party political points - I said that I could understand the logic whereby they didn't want to see smaller, independent traders discriminated against like they were first time around because supermarkets had an unfair advantage over them. Nothing you're saying is making me think I was wrong in thinking that (quite the opposite in fact).

Therefore, there's no point in continuing this discussion.

If the reason a non essential list was produced was to protect the smaller 'closed' independents against 'open' supermarkets, then there could well be a legal challenge in the future. The Senedd has no right to halt the sale of products in a retail business in order to protect ( Drakeford said 'be fair to') another retail business that has been forced to close because of their actions. It's blatantly anti-competitive.

Linked to their action Ive noticed on news bulletins that many supermarkets in Wales have closed aisles and covered displays with polythene sheets to comply. I wonder if this is in line with fire regulations.