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    Is there any country that has regretted independence? Have any joined up again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is there any country that has regretted independence? Have any joined up again?
    The UK done it in a similar way through Brexit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    The UK done it in a similar way through Brexit?
    Brexit is nothing like a country becoming independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Brexit is nothing like a country becoming independent.
    There's some major similarities though.

    Each 'independence' is different. Is a Catalonia independence the same as a Scottish one? What about Yugoslavia.

    Brexit has obvious drawbacks and also massive potential upsides. Scottish independence has obvious drawbacks again some similar upside that may or may not be realised.

    To say they are entirely different is for me total rubbish. They both share the same areas of concern but with completely different outcomes and viewpoints.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    There's some major similarities though.

    Each 'independence' is different. Is a Catalonia independence the same as a Scottish one? What about Yugoslavia.

    Brexit has obvious drawbacks and also massive potential upsides. Scottish independence has obvious drawbacks again some similar upside that may or may not be realised.

    To say they are entirely different is for me total rubbish. They both share the same areas of concern but with completely different outcomes and viewpoints.
    The Yugoslavian independence movements led to new countries. So would the Scottish and Catalonian ones.

    Brexit didn't. To say it's similar is for me total rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The Yugoslavian independence movements led to new countries. So would the Scottish and Catalonian ones.

    Brexit didn't. To say it's similar is for me total rubbish.
    Montenegro parting from the more dominant Serbia in the former political entity know as the 'State Union of Serbia and Montenegro' was perhaps very slightly akin to the possible Scottish scenario.
    And perhaps Kosovo ceding from Serbia as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WJ99mobile View Post
    The UK done it in a similar way through Brexit?
    You do you think there is a similarity between the two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is there any country that has regretted independence? Have any joined up again?
    I guess Texas was independent for a short while.

    and you could say that the holy Roman empire collapsed into many small states, which eventually some of remerged into Germany but it's not a very good example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I guess Texas was independent for a short while.

    and you could say that the holy Roman empire collapsed into many small states, which eventually some of remerged into Germany but it's not a very good example.
    Texas is a nice shout, although I think it left Mexico and eventually joined the US. Really though, it's not easy to find examples of nations that regret independence, even if it's very difficult and daunting.

    Anguilla may be one example, as it fought to become an overseas territory of Britain after independence. Would need to read more about it though, as it seems that independence was forced upon them and not sought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Texas is a nice shout, although I think it left Mexico and eventually joined the US. Really though, it's not easy to find examples of nations that regret independence, even if it's very difficult and daunting.

    Anguilla may be one example, as it fought to become an overseas territory of Britain after independence. Would need to read more about it though, as it seems that independence was forced upon them and not sought.
    there doesn't seem to be a really clean cut example. perhaps when an independent Scotland rejoins the EU?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is there any country that has regretted independence? Have any joined up again?
    It would be interesting to see how many people in England and Wales would migrate north of the border if Scotland becomes independent and joins the EU.

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    Re: Scottish Independence

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Is there any country that has regretted independence? Have any joined up again?
    The Dominion of newfoundland asked London to be governed as a colony
    Anguilla seceded from St Kitts and Nevis and asked London to govern it directly
    Gibraltar and the Bahamas have both rejected independence in referenda

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