Having the stick/dap in school

[Croesy Blue]

You a having a laugh about kids being polite these days. I got on a bus when my van broke down which was crowded and there were eldely women standing. Do you think they would get up and offer them their seat,fat chance. When i was young if you were not polite to grown ups you had a leathering with a belt. People might say that is wrong but if my old man was still alive today i'd shake him by the hand for it. It taught me manners. As a teacher you can comment as you see them everyday,i can only comment on what i see.

It's always been like that and always will be. The madest thing I think is old ***** always whinge about it as if it was actually different in their day when they were actully little bastrds too. Someone being an abusive **** with a belt is much worse than not giving up a seat ffs.

I'm in my 30s and kids are no worse now than they were 20 years ago and from the stories I've heard off my old man and his old man things have probably changed for the better.

Always makes me think of this quote, madness that anyone actually thinks like this.

AUTHOR: Socrates (469–399 B.C.)
QUOTATION: The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

[alfie]

It's always been like that and always will be. The madest thing I think is old ***** always whinge about it as if it was actually different in their day when they were actully little bastrds too. Someone being an abusive **** with a belt is much worse than not giving up a seat ffs.

I'm in my 30s and kids are no worse now than they were 20 years ago and from the stories I've heard off my old man and his old man things have probably changed for the better.

Always makes me think of this quote, madness that anyone actually thinks like this.

But have they changed for the better? I can double your age and more and im sure my age group would agree that they haven't. Sure we used to get up to no good but not on the scale of todays younger generation. Kids today are smart,they know what they can get away with where as we could not.I would argue the fact that in my day we had more respect than they have today. As for being abusive,it didn't do me any harm and was a deterrent. I was lucky as i never had to beat my kids as i found another alternative.

[jimmyscoular]

This has been an interesting thread. Corporal punishment is one of those issues where I have always been able to see both sides. I don't like it, but neither do I like obnoxious, disruptive kids making it impossible for everyone else to learn. As I look back to those long-ago high school days I remember relatively few disrupted classes. Most teachers had their ways of maintaining order. I recall a newly arrived English teacher (prime material for abuse) warning us that he had served in North Africa during WWII with the famous Desert Rats and that he would tolerate no nonsense. He never had a problem. A gentle French teacher, however, suffered terribly. Every class was like something out of St. Trinian's — totally out of control. Some kids earned their whacks.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

When I was at school (late sixties, early seventies) most of the teachers seemed to be disciplinarians and were punitive in nature - but a French teacher came along who was a complete wonder. His name was Ravvi Mooneeram. He was an Indian ethnic gentleman from Mauritius and he taught at Cyntwell Secondary School. He was revolutionary in that he injected fun and humour into his teaching and even used to talk to us occasionally in Welsh just to confuse us. The guy oozed personality and positivity.
I left Cyntwell after two years but I never forgot him. In fact, when my mother died I realised that we should express to those people who left a positive mark on us how we felt about them. I looked up his name in the telephone book and spoke to what seemed a younger gentleman who wanted to know why I was ringing. It turned out to be Mr Mooneeram's son and his dad had died a few days before.
His son took some comfort in my words but I should have tried to make contact and thanked his Dad decades earlier.

[splott parker]

When I was at school (late sixties, early seventies) most of the teachers seemed to be disciplinarians and were punitive in nature - but a French teacher came along who was a complete wonder. His name was Ravvi Mooneeram. He was an Indian ethnic gentleman from Mauritius and he taught at Cyntwell Secondary School. He was revolutionary in that he injected fun and humour into his teaching and even used to talk to us occasionally in Welsh just to confuse us. The guy oozed personality and positivity.
I left Cyntwell after two years but I never forgot him. In fact, when my mother died I realised that we should express to those people who left a positive mark on us how we felt about them. I looked up his name in the telephone book and spoke to what seemed a younger gentleman who wanted to know why I was ringing. It turned out to be Mr Mooneeram's son and his dad had died a few days before.
His son took some comfort in my words but I should have tried to make contact and thanked his Dad decades earlier.

Great teachers do leave a mark on you, John Williams, one of Lady Mary’s finest, passed away recently, I’m so glad that I’d had a pint with him now and again in The Royal Oak post school days.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Great teachers do leave a mark on you, John Williams, one of Lady Mary’s finest, passed away recently, I’m so glad that I’d had a pint with him now and again in The Royal Oak post school days.

Quite a few bad teachers left a mark on me too.

[splott parker]

Quite a few bad teachers left a mark on me too.

The great teachers marks last for the rest of your life though