The Labour Party Is Finished And Must Merge With Others To Challenge Tories

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

YouGov polls have also showed the Tories leading in Wales over the past couple of years only for the inevitable to happen on election day: Labour victory. 2 months before the 2017GE the Tories were leading in the polls, result? Labour win by 15%

A big issue with politics in Wales is that we don't have a proper media which means political issues in Wales are often ignored or, at best, given a 5 minute slot on BBC Wales. The vaccine success is also helping the Tories at the moment, but is being portrayed in the UK tabloid press as a Tory victory, while the WG aren't getting much credit

I also think that Labour are a busted flush and it would be nice to see them stop treating Wales for granted, I'm hopeful they get replaced by Plaid, but fearful that its the Tories who will benefit

I think a Lab-Plaid coalition is likely and the idea of a shared first ministership has been mooted. Drakeford has already said he wouldn't serve the full term so its already set up for Adam Price to take over halfway through. It could also be used as an excuse for Welsh Lab to pass some policies that UK Labour wouldn't be entirely happy with

Plaid are far more socialist than labour will ever be but I am totally opposed to independence so couldn't ever vote plaids, unless it was to keep a tory out

[City123]

Plaid are far more socialist than labour will ever be but I am totally opposed to independence so couldn't ever vote plaids, unless it was to keep a tory out

Socialism is impossible as part of a British state, I'll never understand why some socialists and left wingers are so wedded to the union, you'll never get what you want

[Tuerto]

Like Sludge, The Labour Party has Convinced itself that working class people are right wing and Nationalistic. It's part of the Narrative now Starmer is in charge.

[City123]

Like Sludge, The Labour Party has Convinced itself that working class people are right wing and Nationalistic. It's part of the Narrative now Starmer is in charge.

Labour are filled with paternalistic "we know best types" who think the working classes are swayed by the allure of a union flag

[Tuerto]

Labour are filled with paternalistic "we know best types" who think the working classes are swayed by the allure of a union flag

Absolutely. Lisa Nandy is one of the worst. Every interview she does is an attack on the Tories for not being Hard enough on Russian interference and the supposed trade war with china, also ramping up the notion that China is spying on the UK. Saying that the Tories haven't been hard enough on Shamima Begum, talking about national security like it's an imminent threat and slagging of Corbyn for not joining in with National threats towards russia. She really is a shit bag, even her own father described her as right wing. This is the line Labour are taking, unfortunately. Purposely aimed at a certain section of people.

[life on mars]

Interesting read on the Senedd's history


https://www.thenational.wales/news/1...tory/?ref=ebln