Astonishing radio documentary about Satanism in the USA, child abuse and a woman sentenced to 47 years in prison

[Taunton Blue Genie]

It's interesting that in different cultures, it emerges in various forms - (including witchcraft, voodoo and freemasonry) - but will always come down to the influence of dark spirits - here is one example of voodoo jumping across the Ocean and forming a tragic combination of confusion known as "Voodoo-Catholicism" > The core belief of New Orleans Voodoo is that one God does not interfere in daily lives, but that spirits do. Connection with these spirits can be obtained through various rituals such as dance, music, chanting, and snakes.

I take it from your screed above that you haven't actually listened to the programme

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I take it from your screed above that you haven't actually listened to the programme

Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)

[Rjk]

Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)

I wouldn't say he has a scathing attitude towards the people he features at all, quite the opposite in fact, he seems to go out of his way to genuinely try to understand their motivation and see their point of view, which is why he is so disarming (one of the reasons) and why his interviewees seem to open up to him so readily. he could so easily do a stitch up job on these people but you can see he genuinely tries to get the whole picture.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Yes I have, and I can see why you all love him, as his liberal views and scathing attitude towards anyone with a hint of morality or respect for the almighty is going to earn him more followers each week. I agree that the case he highlights was crazy, immoral and contrived; yet so were the actions against a host of well known stars including Cliff Richard & Paul Gambaccini, however just because we know of such innocent yet wrongly accused individuals, we shouldn't assume that nothing at that level is happening, and the likes of Jimmy Savile was also a figment of someones imagination!
You will recall his comment about some americans acknowledging a 'higher being' - yet people can do that without any reference to God whatsoever; and the declaration for freemasons entering their craft is just that, which is fitting because it fits the luciferian practices therein.
As for the drinking of blood, I agree this really sounds bizarre, but it wouldn't take you or anyone else more than 15 minutes online to learn about many people that we've both heard of who have done this.

As for the media clips, keep them coming, I welcome all information both light and dark (wait for the Brains comment)

I don't 'love' the broadcaster. I was simply very interested in a most incredible miscarriage of justice for which the police were partly complicit.
I'm not particularly interested in continuing the 'God debate' with you personally as I am fully aware of your position (and which I find incredibly ludicrous). I merely thought that some posters on here may be interested in the broadcast concerned for a variety of reasons, most of them not being religion at all.

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I don't 'love' the broadcaster. I was simply very interested in a most incredible miscarriage of justice for which the police were partly complicit.
I'm not particularly interested in continuing the 'God debate' with you personally as I am fully aware of your position (and which I find incredibly ludicrous). I merely thought that some posters on here may be interested in the broadcast concerned for a variety of reasons, most of them not being religion at all.

1. Thanks for not joining the throng who assumed I didn't listen to it, as you were correct in taking me at my word.
Also I was genuine in my request for any other links you may wish to share. My studies in the occult, a subject that has suddenly expoded in both entertainment and real life since around the 1970's, has led me to many fake examples but also many real, damaging and sadly fatal accounts too.

2. I understand why you and others would avoid dialogue with anyone who trusted God's Word as in recent decades the world of education and entertainment has provided the opposite viewpoint to such a point that God's existence can be airbrushed out of life as long as we don't look at the evidence too closely.

3. As for the presenter being balanced - I did notice a few subtle jibs about this (the time of the investigation & trial) being a time when over 90% of Americans believed in a higher power and also the implication that now people were more enlightened and free to explore their 'natural' feelings, hence life was becoming less inhibiting and less held back by old fashioned values. When we get to determine how life should work or how death should occur and how we can get 'better' as a society then feelings get to trump reason & morality, if it feels right then just DO it!
Stable relationships become rare, sleeping around supposedly provides satisfaction and faithfulness is somehow overrated; of course this shift in life's 'upgrade' is going to produced millions of lives that are inconvenient and ultimately unwanted, but not to worry, we can get that *sorted! So since this shift has got into 4th gear we've seen:-

* and yes I am aware that the threat to the mother's life is a genuine case for abortion in certain cases.


More than 1.5 BILLION babies have been aborted worldwide in the past 50 years.
An estimated 50 million abortions are carried out throughout the world every year.

One in five pregnancies worldwide end in abortion.

42% of all yearly deaths in the world are from abortion.

Every two seconds a baby is aborted - every time your heartbeats a baby dies.
Baby girls are a particular target of abortion: at least 100 million girls have already been wiped out through gendercide - the deliberate targeting of baby girls for abortion.
In 2011 the Wall Street Journal reported that 163 MILLION babies were aborted simply because they were girls. They called it "The war against girls"

Yes, we should be really proud

[Taunton Blue Genie]

2. I understand why you and others would avoid dialogue with anyone who trusted God's Word as in recent decades the world of education and entertainment has provided the opposite viewpoint to such a point that God's existence can be airbrushed out of life as long as we don't look at the evidence too closely.

I would prefer it if you kept your screeds about your chosen deity on threads where the topic has already been discussed at great length.
Your literal belief in everything written in the Bible is beyond debate and I find it exceedingly silly.

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I would prefer it if you kept your screeds about your chosen deity on threads where the topic has already been discussed at great length.
Your literal belief in everything written in the Bible is beyond debate and I find it exceedingly silly.

Your comfort zone won't be troubled again.

So how about the other 90% of the dialogue?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

Your comfort zone won't be troubled again.

So how about the other 90% of the dialogue?

Your remark about my 'comfort zone' is another exceedingly silly comment. You just can't help yourself.

[Rjk]

1. Thanks for not joining the throng who assumed I didn't listen to it, as you were correct in taking me at my word.
Also I was genuine in my request for any other links you may wish to share. My studies in the occult, a subject that has suddenly expoded in both entertainment and real life since around the 1970's, has led me to many fake examples but also many real, damaging and sadly fatal accounts too.

2. I understand why you and others would avoid dialogue with anyone who trusted God's Word as in recent decades the world of education and entertainment has provided the opposite viewpoint to such a point that God's existence can be airbrushed out of life as long as we don't look at the evidence too closely.

3. As for the presenter being balanced - I did notice a few subtle jibs about this (the time of the investigation & trial) being a time when over 90% of Americans believed in a higher power and also the implication that now people were more enlightened and free to explore their 'natural' feelings, hence life was becoming less inhibiting and less held back by old fashioned values. When we get to determine how life should work or how death should occur and how we can get 'better' as a society then feelings get to trump reason & morality, if it feels right then just DO it!
Stable relationships become rare, sleeping around supposedly provides satisfaction and faithfulness is somehow overrated; of course this shift in life's 'upgrade' is going to produced millions of lives that are inconvenient and ultimately unwanted, but not to worry, we can get that *sorted! So since this shift has got into 4th gear we've seen:-

* and yes I am aware that the threat to the mother's life is a genuine case for abortion in certain cases.


More than 1.5 BILLION babies have been aborted worldwide in the past 50 years.
An estimated 50 million abortions are carried out throughout the world every year.

One in five pregnancies worldwide end in abortion.

42% of all yearly deaths in the world are from abortion.

Every two seconds a baby is aborted - every time your heartbeats a baby dies.
Baby girls are a particular target of abortion: at least 100 million girls have already been wiped out through gendercide - the deliberate targeting of baby girls for abortion.
In 2011 the Wall Street Journal reported that 163 MILLION babies were aborted simply because they were girls. They called it "The war against girls"

Yes, we should be really proud

I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

The English Language needs a word that is the antithesis to 'browbeating' in that the diatribes, ad hoiminem comments and general lack of argumental logic reflect more negatively on the deliverer's behalf rather than on the bemused but far-from-beaten recipient, as it were. Such self-defeating behaviour could be described as "browlosing" perhaps

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I'm sure you may very well be a perfectly pleasant person in real life, but on here any thread you get involved in seems to end up only going in one way.
I'm sorry to say that you come across as very obnoxious and self satisfied. You take a thread that is usually quite conversational in tone and attempt to dominate it, launching into lengthy diatribes that are often little to do with what is being discussed, with practically no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints.
Other people on this board manage to disagree and put alternative opinions forward without the browbeating.
I'm not sure what you are hoping to achieve by doing it, but I very much doubt anyone has been persuaded by the things you've written to take on your points. In fact I suspect there are other Christians on here who are reluctant to join a thread once you are involved.

Thanks for your comments, as for "no acknowledgement of opposing viewpoints", I have been waiting for one person to actually offer another viewpoint and discuss it openly and honestly. Unfortunately once someone's view is under any amount of pressure to provide facts instead of opinion then they start the insults or start talking any old nonsense.

As for my approach, it's no different than on any other boards over the last 2 decades where I enjoy discussing a whole load of subjects; for 'self satisfied' read confidence in what I am sharing. Of course like anyone I'm not always correct on everything, but let's discuss it as adults rather than playground 'mobs' - and if we end up disagreeing then lets walk away actually knowing WHY the other person holds that viewpoint.

We may end up learning something new, and we don't have to automatically agree with it.
Very often it only seems to be the people who think they have a solid argument only to find it falls at the first hurdle that end up complaining about the personality of the person that pointed out the flaws.
So can we agree to play the ball and not the opponent?