Ex spurs manager.....

[William Treseder]

Everton are a massive club, just because they haven't been successful doesn't change that.

Have to disagree with that statement. They’ve always been bang average, with a couple of random seasons in the sun.

[cardiff55]

Have to disagree with that statement. They’ve always been bang average, with a couple of random seasons in the sun.

Everton won the League in 1963, 1970, 1984 and 1986. I think the won the FACup to 1984 too and the Cup Winners Cup in 1985. Liverpool haven;'t won the League in 30 years, the longest period in their history without winning it. So neither Merseyside club has won the title in over 30 seasons! But ask them if they are big clubs, Clubs like Palace, Watford ,Leicester, Bournemouth and the like have never won the League. But maybe their day was long ago, they need a new ground and are in a bad place, but then look at Arsenal and Man U too. Still bigger than most. But of course to some on here Leeds are bigger than them all.....

[lardy]

Everton won the League in 1963, 1970, 1984 and 1986. I think the won the FACup to 1984 too and the Cup Winners Cup in 1985. Liverpool haven;'t won the League in 30 years, the longest period in their history without winning it. So neither Merseyside club has won the title in over 30 seasons! But ask them if they are big clubs, Clubs like Palace, Watford ,Leicester, Bournemouth and the like have never won the League. But maybe their day was long ago, they need a new ground and are in a bad place, but then look at Arsenal and Man U too. Still bigger than most. But of course to some on here Leeds are bigger than them all.....

Leicester?!

[Bobby Dandruff]

Have to disagree with that statement. They’ve always been bang average, with a couple of random seasons in the sun.

Have to agree with that.

Zero evidence to even suggest that they are massive.

Old maybe. Traditional maybe. Well established maybe. Definitely not ‘massive’!

[NYCBlue]

Have to agree with that.

Zero evidence to even suggest that they are massive.

Old maybe. Traditional maybe. Well established maybe. Definitely not ‘massive’!

They were part of the "big 5" that led to the formation of the Premier League. They are one of only 6 clubs that have played every season of that league. They have over 100 seasons of top division football (a record). They're moving to a 52,000 seater stadium. They've won the league 9 times which puts them in 4th place of most top-flight championships. OK, so they're in a slump, but it's hard to win championships when other, richer clubs are dominating. Ask Liverpool.

Anyway, quite plainly far from "bang-average".

[Divine Wright]

They were part of the "big 5" that led to the formation of the Premier League. They are one of only 6 clubs that have played every season of that league. They have over 100 seasons of top division football (a record). They're moving to a 52,000 seater stadium. They've won the league 9 times which puts them in 4th place of most top-flight championships. OK, so they're in a slump, but it's hard to win championships when other, richer clubs are dominating. Ask Liverpool.

Anyway, quite plainly far from "bang-average".

Blackburn, Huddersfield and Preston have won the league more times than Tottenham. Does that make them bigger clubs?

Sunderland are 6th in that list.

All of the above have also won the FA Cup a few times too.

If you are younger than 30 years old Everton are probably seen in a very different light to those who grew up during the 80’s and 90’s.

I was a an Everton fan when I was younger as well, when they had the NEC old logo shirt with zig zags on the sleeve.

I just think that “massive” describes Lpool, Man U, Man C, Arsenal and maybe Chelsea and Spurs to a lesser extent.

[surge]

Arguably, due to the wealth of the premier league, any team who has more than 10 years at that level are a massive club. That's not enough to make Everton an attractive prospect though.

[NYCBlue]

Blackburn, Huddersfield and Preston have won the league more times than Tottenham. Does that make them bigger clubs?

Sunderland are 6th in that list.

All of the above have also won the FA Cup a few times too.

If you are younger than 30 years old Everton are probably seen in a very different light to those who grew up during the 80’s and 90’s.

I was a an Everton fan when I was younger as well, when they had the NEC old logo shirt with zig zags on the sleeve.

I just think that “massive” describes Lpool, Man U, Man C, Arsenal and maybe Chelsea and Spurs to a lesser extent.

I never said they were "massive". But that could quickly change with the right investment and management. (would Man City be considered "massive" 10 years ago?) My initial point was that they're big enough for Pochettino. And latterly that they're not a "bang average" club.

[xsnaggle]

Blackburn, Huddersfield and Preston have won the league more times than Tottenham. Does that make them bigger clubs?

Sunderland are 6th in that list.

All of the above have also won the FA Cup a few times too.

If you are younger than 30 years old Everton are probably seen in a very different light to those who grew up during the 80’s and 90’s.

I was a an Everton fan when I was younger as well, when they had the NEC old logo shirt with zig zags on the sleeve.

I just think that “massive” describes Lpool, Man U, Man C, Arsenal and maybe Chelsea and Spurs to a lesser extent.

Oi!!! And Cardiff mate. We're entitled!!!!!!