Culture wars.

[Doucas]

Welfare bill now stands at 212 billion pa up 20 million from last year , it appears to have risen year on year :

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ure-in-the-uk/

Let not forgot the 400 billion that has supported people during Covid .

Worrying numbers .

Since your 10 years ago comparison, it has risen from 148 billion to 212 billion

Where to begin with this post...

Ok so what does your 148 billion to 212 billion represent? I'm guessing that's pensions included. So you have instant issues there, there's way more elderly than 11 years ago so most of that increase will have gone to them. You've also ignored inflation which is an incredibly basic mistake. Inflation since then has increased by around 27% so that in itself shows why the figure has risen but paired with more elderly mean the vulnerable and poor are getting less than in 2010.

We wouldn't have had to spend £400 billion on covid if the economy was more equal, paid a fairer wage and 14 million people in the country weren't living in poverty ffs.

[life on mars]

Where to begin with this post...

Ok so what does your 148 billion to 212 billion represent? I'm guessing that's pensions included. So you have instant issues there, there's way more elderly than 11 years ago so most of that increase will have gone to them. You've also ignored inflation which is an incredibly basic mistake. Inflation since then has increased by around 27% so that in itself shows why the figure has risen but paired with more elderly mean the vulnerable and poor are getting less than in 2010.

We wouldn't have had to spend £400 billion on covid if the economy was more equal, paid a fairer wage and 14 million people in the country weren't living in poverty ffs.

Where to finish the stats are the stat's as per the link it doesn't matter the money supports all sorts of our lives and its a lot and it has gone up significantly in 10 years and I clearly remember as a child being extremely poor very little food ,limited benefits to help us .

If your saying without poverty we would see very little Covid death and spend I think you may need to re look at the facts the majority of deaths were form older vulnerable people 81 years and above (sadly) not poverty and a huge chunk of the money went to PPE and furlough which was aimed at the very poor in life so they kept a job and that has worked as unemployment experts were talking of many millions out of work .

Of course poverty see's early death as it does in normal times , just look North in Scotland a country not driven by Tories it has the poorest life expectancy in the UK .

Obesity and diabetics are also part of the Covid death mix one might argue some personal responsibility is at fault there not just poverty .

People ignoring the early messages on social distancing rules also played a part in death of themselves and others again not just poverty

[Doucas]

Where to finish the stats are the stat's as per the link it doesn't matter the money supports all sorts of our lives and its a lot and it has gone up significantly in 10 years and I clearly remember as a child being extremely poor very little food ,limited benefits to help us .

If your saying without poverty we would see very little Covid death and spend I think you may need to re look at the facts the majority of deaths were form older vulnerable people 81 years and above (sadly) not poverty and a huge chunk of the money went to PPE and furlough which was aimed at the very poor in life so they kept a job and that has worked as unemployment experts were talking of many millions out of work .

Of course poverty see's early death as it does in normal times , just look North in Scotland a country not driven by Tories it has the poorest life expectancy in the UK .

Obesity and diabetics are also part of the Covid death mix one might argue some personal responsibility is at fault there not just poverty .

People ignoring the early messages on social distancing rules also played a part in death of themselves and others again not just poverty

You don't know what inflation means do you?

So let me get this straight. You read my post, completely ignored it and then made something up and argued against that.

FFS this is the average tory voter, thick as shit.

[JamesWales]

You don't know what inflation means do you?

So let me get this straight. You read my post, completely ignored it and then made something up and argued against that.

FFS this is the average tory voter, thick as shit.

The welfare bill approved to support people through Covid is like nothing this country has spent since WW2. The support has been extraordinary. And you know it. Our kids will be paying for it their whole lives - we borrowed 21,000 million pounds last month alone.

Are you absolutely sure that welfare hasn't risen even when taking account of inflation?