The Donald Trump thread

[cyril evans awaydays]

Roger Stone was found guilty on seven criminal charges of obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements to Congress (then held by Republicans), and witness tampering.

The sentencing judge said

“The truth still exists, the truth still matters, Roger Stone's insistence that it doesn't, his belligerence, his pride in his own lies are a threat to our most fundamental institutions, to the very foundation of our democracy. And if it goes unpunished, it will not be a victory for one party or another.”

[Wales-Bales]

Roger Stone was found guilty on seven criminal charges of obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements to Congress (then held by Republicans), and witness tampering.

The sentencing judge said

“The truth still exists, the truth still matters, Roger Stone's insistence that it doesn't, his belligerence, his pride in his own lies are a threat to our most fundamental institutions, to the very foundation of our democracy. And if it goes unpunished, it will not be a victory for one party or another.”

So you'll be all for members of the previous administration going to jail for any wrongdoing then?

[the other bob wilson]

So you'll be all for members of the previous administration going to jail for any wrongdoing then?

I am if they were genuinely proven to be guilty of crimes serious enough to merit custodial sentences, but this must by a properly convened court and not on the say so of conspiracy theorists like you.

As far as I know, Stone was guilty of the offences he was charged with, so, even if you've been right all along about the "other side", aren't we looking at two groups that are much the same in that they think nothing of resorting to criminal behaviour when it suits them? Seems to me, when Trump talked of draining the swamp, he meant a Democrat one should be replaced by a Republican one.

[lardy]

I am if they were genuinely proven to be guilty of crimes serious enough to merit custodial sentences, but this must by a properly convened court and not on the say so of conspiracy theorists like you.

As far as I know, Stone was guilty of the offences he was charged with, so, even if you've been right all along about the "other side", aren't we looking at two groups that are much the same in that they think nothing of resorting to criminal behaviour when it suits them? Seems to me, when Trump talked of draining the swamp, he meant a Democrat one should be replaced by a Republican one.

Come on now Bob, it's only Trump's campaign manager (Manafort), deputy campaign manager (Gates), national security advisor (Flynn), foreign policy advisor, (Papadopolous) political advisor (Stone) and personal lawyer (Cohen) that have been convicted recently, the rest of the team are probably fine!

[life on mars]

Come on now Bob, it's only Trump's campaign manager (Manafort), deputy campaign manager (Gates), national security advisor (Flynn), foreign policy advisor, (Papadopolous) political advisor (Stone) and personal lawyer (Cohen) that have been convicted recently, the rest of the team are probably fine!

If there guilty down they go

[cyril evans awaydays]

If there guilty down they go

Normally I would agree with you but that sacred "rule of law" that some close to you supposedly place above allegiance to Trump seems to be an a la carte menu. Stone was prosecuted for federal crimes, found guilty in a criminal court, had a recommended sentence by the prosecutors significantly reduced by Trump's Attorney General Barr. Still this wasn't enough for The Don. He commuted the sentence so his mate serves no time.

The Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who has made no public statement since he appeared before Congress, broke cover to call Stone a convicted felon who worked with Russian intelligence services. Trump commuted his sentence so from a recommended 9 years to the 4 years Barr wanted Trump fixed it to no jail time.

Given he was guilty and down he didn't go you must be horrified!

[Wales-Bales]

The Special Counsel, Robert Mueller, who has made no public statement since he appeared before Congress, broke cover to call Stone a convicted felon who worked with Russian intelligence services. Trump commuted his sentence so from a recommended 9 years to the 4 years Barr wanted Trump fixed it to no jail time.

Given he was guilty and down he didn't go you must be horrified!

If Mueller wrote that op-ed himself I will eat my hat! Anyway, it looks like he will be able to explain his thinking when he appears before the Senate Judiciary Committee.

[lardy]

If there guilty down they go

Then you must be very angry with what Trump has done.