Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
At what time was that? The comment made by the BBC reporter at 0740 referred to bad news possibly being promulgated to the Russian public to limit their expectations but not about a withdrawal as such. For my part, I can't see the Russians giving up the areas they occupied before the full-scale invasion.
yeah I think you're probably right.

I think they'll keep Crimea and the Donbas and probably a land bridge between the two. This can be presented as a success in Russia.