Historically big clubs

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We weren’t always that bad….looking at crowds regularly posted on the fb group. 7/8000 most of the time. I guess crowds might have just tripled over the years….

When we were hopping between the third and fourth our crowds were shocking

Only under Sam did we get decent gates

[goats]

When we were hopping between the third and fourth our crowds were shocking

Only under Sam did we get decent gates

And Rick wright….we just needed a half decent owner, maybe we will get one one day hey

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And Rick wright….we just needed a half decent owner, maybe we will get one one day hey

Yes we certainly had some thumping gates in the old fourth

Barnet , Shrewsbury , Burnley

I don't know where half of them came from

[Dembe]

Yes we certainly had some thumping gates in the old fourth

Barnet , Shrewsbury , Burnley

I don't know where half of them came from

You gonna give us your top 20?

[Cyclops]

Pompey have often been cited in this thread.
As they are my home-town team, I've been following their rise and fall for decades and it might be informative to examine why they seem to be gradually hauling themselves up the leagues.
After their nose-dive to League Two and being taken over by the fans, it became apparent that there was never going to be the money for a proper revival, they sold the club to a Disney executive. He's proved to be excellent - spending dosh improving an old stadium and not throwing huge money to acheive promotion. After about seven years of gradual progress they currently top league one. So that's the first plus point - a careful, enthusiastic owner.
Pompey have had a few managers during this time who have been reasonably backed but although being fairly successful and being given time, they now have a young manager who has turned the corner for them who none of you will have heard of. Second plus point.
The buzz words are STRATEGY = SUCCESS.
And behind it all is the fan base. Fratton Park is usually sold out with around 21,000 raucuous supporters willing their team to win.
Are Pompey a historically BIG club?
They've won the old First Division a few times and the FA cup. When I was a lad, they attracted crowds of 40K. But compared to say, Villa, who have won the European Cup, they are probably in the second tier of big clubs with Derby etc.
If you're interested, there's a recent excellent video interview with the owner which encapsulates his philosophy. Tan would do well to see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_im...l=PortsmouthFC

[Citizen's Nephew]

Pompey have often been cited in this thread.
As they are my home-town team, I've been following their rise and fall for decades and it might be informative to examine why they seem to be gradually hauling themselves up the leagues.
After their nose-dive to League Two and being taken over by the fans, it became apparent that there was never going to be the money for a proper revival, they sold the club to a Disney executive. He's proved to be excellent - spending dosh improving an old stadium and not throwing huge money to acheive promotion. After about seven years of gradual progress they currently top league one. So that's the first plus point - a careful, enthusiastic owner.
Pompey have had a few managers during this time who have been reasonably backed but although being fairly successful and being given time, they now have a young manager who has turned the corner for them who none of you will have heard of. Second plus point.
The buzz words are STRATEGY = SUCCESS.
And behind it all is the fan base. Fratton Park is usually sold out with around 21,000 raucuous supporters willing their team to win.
Are Pompey a historically BIG club?
They've won the old First Division a few times and the FA cup. When I was a lad, they attracted crowds of 40K. But compared to say, Villa, who have won the European Cup, they are probably in the second tier of big clubs with Derby etc.
If you're interested, there's a recent excellent video interview with the owner which encapsulates his philosophy. Tan would do well to see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_im...l=PortsmouthFC

Thanks for posting that link. Will give it a watch. Tan having some sort of 'vision' and communicating it would be wonderful. I feel like we're one of those businesses/clubs that are just fronts for something else. It's felt like that for a while.

[Cyclops]

So Pompey are deservedly Div One champions!
May I suggest that it would behove Tan and his Cardiff management team to examine why this pegasus has risen from the ashes.
The interview with the owner linked in my last post is illuminating.
There is also a new appraisal which encapsulates why the club has been successful (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68806890).
There were almost 20,000 at Fratton Park yesterday and there are ambitious plans to expand the old lady, Fratton Park, to maybe 35,000.

[jon1959]

So Pompey are deservedly Div One champions!
May I suggest that it would behove Tan and his Cardiff management team to examine why this pegasus has risen from the ashes.
The interview with the owner linked in my last post is illuminating.
There is also a new appraisal which encapsulates why the club has been successful (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68806890).
There were almost 20,000 at Fratton Park yesterday and there are ambitious plans to expand the old lady, Fratton Park, to maybe 35,000.

Please don't suggest that Vincent Tan should examine examples of a 'pegasus' risen from the ashes.

It will only confuse him more if he's looking for another (wrong) mythical beast! The worm is bad enough.

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So Pompey are deservedly Div One champions!
May I suggest that it would behove Tan and his Cardiff management team to examine why this pegasus has risen from the ashes.
The interview with the owner linked in my last post is illuminating.
There is also a new appraisal which encapsulates why the club has been successful (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68806890).
There were almost 20,000 at Fratton Park yesterday and there are ambitious plans to expand the old lady, Fratton Park, to maybe 35,000.

Portsmouth could easily support a bigger stadium

It's not just "portsmouth" where their fans come from , it's a big urban area down there as you know

[Eric the Half a Bee]

When we were hopping between the third and fourth our crowds were shocking

Only under Sam did we get decent gates

Not quite true.

When we won promotion in 1993 we had a higher average attendance than when we had promotion in Hammam's first season in 2000/01. Even the two seasons before Hammam arrived saw not too dissimilar averages to that promotion season.

However, in our promotion attempt in 2001/02, we had our first +10k average since 1976/77, although our attendances fluctuated from 17k to start and end the season, to 8k for a couple of games against unfancied sides after an average run. Our crowds got better as we mounted a promotion push.