Steve Morison, 21st best manager in the Championship?

[Citizen's Nephew]

Listening to the Second Tier podcast where they’re rating all of the current Championship managers. Only Paul Ince, Lee Bowyer and Arvaladze at Hull are rated below our manager - reasons for him being so low, were his inexperience (they admitted there’s little to go on when ranking him), there’s little evidence of the change of playing style that was mooted when he was appointed, that the signings so far do not suggest a change of style and they both agreed that Morison has benefited from not being as dire as Mick McCarthy was - I’d agree with them about the slight change of style and from what I’ve read about the likes of Adams and Rinomhota hardly suggests more of an emphasis on ball retention.

Agree/disagree?

That high? (and please guys, don't get all huffy, you all know what I think of him). I've got my season ticket. I'll be there. I'll cheer on the team - same as it ever was.

[the other bob wilson]

That high? (and please guys, don't get all huffy, you all know what I think of him). I've got my season ticket. I'll be there. I'll cheer on the team - same as it ever was.

Russell Martin placed sixth - think there’s an element of Emperor’s New Clothes about him.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Russell Martin placed sixth - think there’s an element of Emperor’s New Clothes about him.

In all serious, these lists are great for laugh, mainly for when people get really arsey... "so-and-so should be 17th, 18th is ridiculous!"

Agree about the Emperor's New Clothes though, but I think they're probably going on their recent form re. management appointments (two of whom are now in the PL) so maybe they're thinking they make better decisions?

[the other bob wilson]

In all serious, these lists are great for laugh, mainly for when people get really arsey... "so-and-so should be 17th, 18th is ridiculous!"

Agree about the Emperor's New Clothes though, but I think they're probably going on their recent form re. management appointments (two of whom are now in the PL) so maybe they're thinking they make better decisions?

Chris Wilder was number one, Nathan Jones two and Mark Robins three.

[Citizen's Nephew]

Chris Wilder was number one, Nathan Jones two and Mark Robins three.

The Nathan Jones one is interesting.

[fugsyphil]

The Nathan Jones one is interesting.

Stoke definitely wouldn't have him very high.
What the hell has Bowyer done wrong to be ranked below Morison

[the other bob wilson]

Stoke definitely wouldn't have him very high.
What the hell has Bowyer done wrong to be ranked below Morison

There was a discussion as to whether they were being fair in placing Bowyer so low and they didn’t really convince me that they were right to have him there - there was some vague reference to “strange decisions” he made in terms of transfers and selections and talk of him not getting some of the Birmingham team to play to their potential,

[olderblue]

I've said in another thread, he's going to be MOTM in October or gone, it's that wide apart!!!
Obviously I hope it's the former
Looking at the current signings I get that you have to win the ball first to retain it, and we look like we're going to press sides
The 5 loan signings will dictate how are season goes I believe
We need a couple of flare players and forwards who can actually score goals.
1st of July and I'm reasonably happy with the signings so far
Let's see what we have bought in for Saturday 30th.

The one thing Morison is going to have to do this season is take FULL responsibility for the results and playing style
It's his squad and he picks it, no hiding place (or blaming everyone else)
Put another way, if he doesn't succeed, he'll never get another opportunity at this level, if at all

[the other bob wilson]

I've said in another thread, he's going to be MOTM in October or gone, it's that wide apart!!!
Obviously I hope it's the former
Looking at the current signings I get that you have to win the ball first to retain it, and we look like we're going to press sides
The 5 loan signings will dictate how are season goes I believe
We need a couple of flare players and forwards who can actually score goals.
1st of July and I'm reasonably happy with the signings so far
Let's see what we have bought in for Saturday 30th.

The one thing Morison is going to have to do this season is take FULL responsibility for the results and playing style
It's his squad and he picks it, no hiding place (or blaming everyone else)
Put another way, if he doesn't succeed, he'll never get another opportunity at this level, if at all

I’ve heard things like “it’s not been for the want of trying” said about our failure to sign a striker so far. If that’s true, it’s really not a good sign - I’m hoping we’ve got loans in place that will be confirmed fairly shortly and I think we need better than the likes of Hugill and Uche.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I’ve heard things like “it’s not been for the want of trying” said about our failure to sign a striker so far. If that’s true, it’s really not a good sign - I’m hoping we’ve got loans in place that will be confirmed fairly shortly and I think we need better than the likes of Hugill and Uche.

Definitely sounds as if the new loan rules have really affected us.

[Rjk]

Definitely sounds as if the new loan rules have really affected us.

Am I imagining it, or was there something that came out at the start of the summer about a foreign player we'd tried to sign but had fallen foul of visa requirements or something?

Usually very fine margins between success and failure at this level, and doesn't seem like we've been catching many breaks so far.
Still plenty of opportunity to get things right though.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Am I imagining it, or was there something that came out at the start of the summer about a foreign player we'd tried to sign but had fallen foul of visa requirements or something?

Usually very fine margins between success and failure at this level, and doesn't seem like we've been catching many breaks so far.
Still plenty of opportunity to get things right though.

Yaya Sanogo in Mick's time here. Not sure about this year, although we were supposed to have signed a few players from abroad this summer, and we've only signed one... Or 8 if you agree with FIFA

[Bobby Dandruff]

I've said in another thread, he's going to be MOTM in October or gone, it's that wide apart!!!
Obviously I hope it's the former
Looking at the current signings I get that you have to win the ball first to retain it, and we look like we're going to press sides
The 5 loan signings will dictate how are season goes I believe
We need a couple of flare players and forwards who can actually score goals.
1st of July and I'm reasonably happy with the signings so far
Let's see what we have bought in for Saturday 30th.

The one thing Morison is going to have to do this season is take FULL responsibility for the results and playing style
It's his squad and he picks it, no hiding place (or blaming everyone else)
Put another way, if he doesn't succeed, he'll never get another opportunity at this level, if at all

I agree with a lot of this.

[Des Parrot]

The 5 loan signings will dictate how are season goes I believe
We need a couple of flare players and forwards who can actually score goals.
1st of July and I'm reasonably happy with the signings so far
Let's see what we have bought in for Saturday 30th.

We have the cone sorted but what flavour ice cream will we get, if any

[North Cardiff Blue]

Russell Martin placed sixth - think there’s an element of Emperor’s New Clothes about him.

Agreed he's gone in and followed their keep the ball style, they are terrible to watch and are going backwards, apart from when they play us!