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  1. #1

    Re: Swansea's accounts

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Jones gets way too much stick for not starting with Ramsey in the cup final.

    The kid was just 17, had only started a handful of games in his senior career, playing in a cup final, against a team from a higher division.
    By the time of the cup final, Ramsey had started 12 league and cup games out of the previous 18 (including the whole 90 minutes at Middlesbrough) and made a further 3 substitute appearances.

    In his first season at Arsenal, while he was limited to only some brief Premier League appearances, he was given plenty of Champions' League experience.

    He was also the best player we had at the club, even at that young an age.

    Of course Jones should have started him.

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    By the time of the cup final, Ramsey had started 12 league and cup games out of the previous 18 (including the whole 90 minutes at Middlesbrough) and made a further 3 substitute appearances.

    In his first season at Arsenal, while he was limited to only some brief Premier League appearances, he was given plenty of Champions' League experience.

    He was also the best player we had at the club, even at that young an age.

    Of course Jones should have started him.
    I really don't agree. you could see he was going to be a quality player but he was still a kid, and playing against a powerful Portsmouth side
    of those games he had managed a goal against Burnley and one against chasetown.

    and as we played ,4 across the midfield at the time we would have been dropping one of mcphail, Rae, Ledley or whittingham.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I really don't agree. you could see he was going to be a quality player but he was still a kid, and playing against a powerful Portsmouth side
    of those games he had managed a goal against Burnley and one against chasetown.

    and as we played ,4 across the midfield at the time we would have been dropping one of mcphail, Rae, Ledley or whittingham.
    Rae could have been dropped. Pompey went with a midfield 3 and Rae's aggressive style was completely nullified.

    A better option would have been to drop Hasselbaink and go 4-5-1. Whitts played on the right that day and had a bit of a stinker. He could have been given a freer role with Ramsey out on the right.

    Of course, that would have meant Jones having a plan B.

  4. #4

    Re: Swansea's accounts

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Rae could have been dropped. Pompey went with a midfield 3 and Rae's aggressive style was completely nullified.

    A better option would have been to drop Hasselbaink and go 4-5-1. Whitts played on the right that day and had a bit of a stinker. He could have been given a freer role with Ramsey out on the right.

    Of course, that would have meant Jones having a plan B.
    Hasn't Robbie Fowler claimed that he was fit enough to play? He may have given Portsmouth a bit to think about.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Hasn't Robbie Fowler claimed that he was fit enough to play? He may have given Portsmouth a bit to think about.
    I think so. He barely gave Championship defenders much to think about. There was talk before the game that he might have been ready. Thankfully he wasn't.

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think so. He barely gave Championship defenders much to think about. There was talk before the game that he might have been ready. Thankfully he wasn't.
    when he actually played he was still decent, just he played so few games.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Rae could have been dropped. Pompey went with a midfield 3 and Rae's aggressive style was completely nullified.

    A better option would have been to drop Hasselbaink and go 4-5-1. Whitts played on the right that day and had a bit of a stinker. He could have been given a freer role with Ramsey out on the right.

    Of course, that would have meant Jones having a plan B.
    well we can agree to disagree. I think a midfield of whitts, mcphail, Ledley and a teenage Ramsey would have been fun to watch with the ball but we would have been torn to shreds without it.

  8. #8

    Re: Swansea's accounts

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    well we can agree to disagree. I think a midfield of whitts, mcphail, Ledley and a teenage Ramsey would have been fun to watch with the ball but we would have been torn to shreds without it.
    It was anyway.

    In the Leicester playoff semi final we had a midfield of Burke, McPhail, Whitts and Ledley. Last year, when someone pointed this out I thought that couldn't be true. It turned out that that quartet played quite a few games and was very successful. I looked at it and thought powderpuff, but it worked.

  9. #9

    Re: Swansea's accounts

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    It was anyway.

    In the Leicester playoff semi final we had a midfield of Burke, McPhail, Whitts and Ledley. Last year, when someone pointed this out I thought that couldn't be true. It turned out that that quartet played quite a few games and was very successful. I looked at it and thought powderpuff, but it worked.
    Those were the days eh?
    Imagine having all those players able to pass the ball on the pitch at the same time?
    That said we could play a very direct game when we needed to as well.

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