We Want You to Stay

[TWGL1]

During the last home game (the defeat to Hull) a large percentage of fans had left the ground long before the final whistle and there was loud jeering both at half-time and full-time.

Yesterday afternoon, as has been the case in many home games during the second half of the season, there were swathes of empty seats all around the ground, many of which belong to season ticket holders. The weather was good, the opposition was attractive and the game didn't clash with the rugby or anything similar, but there were still loads of season ticket holders missing.

What do you make of that? Do you think it has anything to do with the standard of football that has been served up by the manager and his players this season, or do you believe there are other factors involved?

Our average gate is 21,200, not too shabby considering the home form etc and the non show of season ticket holders happens at every ground in the country. Apparently Arsenal have as many as 15,000 non shows per match , what do you think of that ?

The way the season tickets are priced allow fans to be still financially better off by missing as many as 10 games compared to walk up prices.

Ultimately, I hope he stays, but if you don’t want him to stay , who would you want as a replacement?

[The Lone Gunman]

Our average gate is 21,200, not too shabby considering the home form etc and the non show of season ticket holders happens at every ground in the country. Apparently Arsenal have as many as 15,000 non shows per match , what do you think of that ?

The way the season tickets are priced allow fans to be still financially better off by missing as many as 10 games compared to walk up prices.

You haven't answered my question, but I kind of expected that.

[TWGL1]

You haven't answered my question, but I kind of expected that.

There is nothing to answer , you know as-well as anyone how fickle fans can be after a defeat, the same way as they pivot when we get a great match like yesterday.

I kind of expect your negativity anyway because you no longer are in the free ice cream list anymore.

I’m pretty pissed off my free chips at Mansfield were cold.

[The Lone Gunman]

I kind of expect your negativity anyway because you no longer are in the free ice cream list anymore.....

Oh, come on.

[The Lone Gunman]

Ultimately, I hope he stays, but if you don’t want him to stay , who would you want as a replacement?

I have no idea and I think it's a pretty dumb question to be honest. After all, like the vast majority of UK football fans, I'd never even heard of Erol Bulut before he arrived here. Indeed, I'd never heard of almost all of the foreign coaches who have made a genuine mark in the Championship before they got here. And I'd never heard of half of the young British coaches who have done well in this division either.

Take Kieran McKenna, for example. I'd never heard of him before he took over at Ipswich. I'd never heard of Thomas Frank or Daniel Farke before they arrive at Brentford and Norwich either. Be honest, had you?

[TWGL1]

I have no idea and I think it's a pretty dumb question to be honest. After all, like the vast majority of UK football fans, I'd never even heard of Erol Bulut before he arrived here. Indeed, I'd never heard of almost all of the foreign coaches who have made a genuine mark in the Championship before they got here. And I'd never heard of half of the young British coaches who have done well in this division either.

Take Kieran McKenna, for example. I'd never heard of him before he took over at Ipswich. I'd never heard of Thomas Frank or Daniel Farke before they arrive at Brentford and Norwich either. Be honest, had you?

If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have. A top ten finish is more than acceptable, and whilst the home form is pretty dire, perhaps you should try some away games as they have been very competitive

[The Lone Gunman]

If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have.

Thankfully, it's not up to me to come up with a replacement, if one is deemed necessary.

An old man in Malaysia is going to decide how this goes, if he hasn't done so already.

[TWGL1]

Thankfully, it's not up to me to come up with a replacement, if one is deemed necessary.

An old man in Malaysia is going to decide how this goes, if he hasn't done so already.

It’s probably already concluded behind the scenes , like you say.

[The Lone Gunman]

It’s probably already concluded behind the scenes , like you say.

I hope you're right and Bulut's demeanour in his post-match press conference suggested it might be.

It will be insane if it isn't.

[TWGL1]

I hope you're right and Bulut's demeanour in his post-match press conference suggested it might be.

It will be insane if it isn't.

I think he’s staying personally.

[Tuerto]

If you can’t think of an adequate replacement then I’d stick with what we have. A top ten finish is more than acceptable, and whilst the home form is pretty dire, perhaps you should try some away games as they have been very competitive

On the face of it things have improved, without doubt. Although these things are nuanced and we all have different expectations and thoughts on how the game should be played and what we find entertaining, progressive etc. So, i can see both sides of the argument really, even though i can't watch Bulut's brand of football, i fully accept that there are those who don't mind it and who believe that Bulut has some kind of plan in place.

The problem for me is that Bulut doen't seem to go out to win a game,it's avoid defeat as the first call, keepthe midfield flat, no penetration, hardly any player braking opposition lines. It's all about the wide players, which tells me that he doesn't like expression in the difficult areas, he likes to stretch teams. It makes for some awful stuff if our wide players aren't performing as they're our only outlet.

Our mosr creative player (Colwill) Doesn't score or create a great deal, not through want of trying, he just doesn't get into those positions or is starting from a very deep position. He also lacks composure on times but that bit is on him, not Bulut. So it sort of shows what Bulut wants, which is the midfield players getting the ball out wide at the earliest opportunity. To me, that a bit cowardly in terms of how i like the game to be played and it only gives us one option, and when that fails it's shocking. We go a goal down and he reacts, and i think that has got him off the hook a bit. Not for me, although he does have a system, he does have a plan, i just don't like it

[TWGL1]

On the face of it things have improved, without doubt. Although these things are nuanced and we all have different expectations and thoughts on how the game should be played and what we find entertaining, progressive etc. So, i can see both sides of the argument really, even though i can't watch Bulut's brand of football, i fully accept that there are those who don't mind it and who believe that Bulut has some kind of plan in place.

The problem for me is that Bulut doen't seem to go out to win a game,it's avoid defeat as the first call, keepthe midfield flat, no penetration, hardly any player braking opposition lines. It's all about the wide players, which tells me that he doesn't like expression in the difficult areas, he likes to stretch teams. It makes for some awful stuff if our wide players aren't performing as they're our only outlet.

Our mosr creative player (Colwill) Doesn't score or create a great deal, not through want of trying, he just doesn't get into those positions or is starting from a very deep position. He also lacks composure on times but that bit is on him, not Bulut. So it sort of shows what Bulut wants, which is the midfield players getting the ball out wide at the earliest opportunity. To me, that a bit cowardly in terms of how i like the game to be played and it only gives us one option, and when that fails it's shocking. We go a goal down and he reacts, and i think that has got him off the hook a bit. Not for me, although he does have a system, he does have a plan, i just don't like it

I’d argue that our current system of playing is indicative of 70% of championship teams I’ve seen this season. Out of the top 6 Coventry ( although Cov were appalling at CCS)and Hull look nice on the eye , but they have spent around £20m each on new players. Imagine if we had Ellis Sims or Jayden in our team.

With the resources available the style of play comes secondary to points on the board. Next season is a different story though.

[JumpersforGoalposts]

It was said at the outset that the one year contract had and extension option that would be triggered by performance on the pitch. While we don't know what that is it seems likely it will not be automatically triggered. Consequently I'd have thought if Tan is going to approve an extension he is likely to want to offer lower remuneration as the performance criteria to extend on the current terms have not been met.