El Diego RIP

[delmbox]

Have to disagree with you there. Shilton was a brilliant keeper, who could have capped off his career with a world cup winners medal.
He has always said what a brilliant player Maradona was, but could never forgive him for that handball.
It was obvious as soon as DM died yesterday Shilton was gonna be interviewed, and asked those sort of questions.question. At least he stuck to his guns and wasn’t a hypocrite.

I get what you're saying about the questions he would have been asked in interviews but the man's just died, it's over, it wouldn't take much to say "it doesn't matter now, he was a fantastic player and my thoughts go out to his loved ones"

That would show true character. Didn't take him long to get that article written either

[The Lone Gunman]

I get what you're saying about the questions he would have been asked in interviews but the man's just died, it's over, it wouldn't take much to say "it doesn't matter now, he was a fantastic player and my thoughts go out to his loved ones"

I hate this sort of shit. Why on earth should Shilton or anyone else be obliged to say such a thing? Indeed, what does it matter what Shilton says? Maradona was a brilliant footballer, but he was also a complex character and, for many people, not a particularly likeable one. He's dead. Millions of his fellow countrymen will mourn his death as if he was some sort of messiah. Millions of other people will feel a bit sad because he was once great at playing football. Millions couldn't care less. It's not compulsory to have any thoughts for his family or his loved ones.

I wonder what El Diego would have thought or said about Shilton if the latter had died this week? Would he have been respectful or reverential when questioned by the press? Who knows, but I somehow doubt it.

As for suggesting that goal doesn't matter now, the fact of the matter is that it was one of the defining moments of Shilton's career, and Maradona's for that matter.

By the way, I think Shilton's a prick, but not because of anything he's said about Maradona.

[splott parker]

As for suggesting that goal doesn't matter now, the fact of the matter is that it was one of the defining moments of Shilton's career, and Maradona's for that matter.

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Most probably was one of the most embarrassing as well as defining moments of Shilton’s long career (too long really, scrubbing about for clubs in his 40s) an international renowned goalkeeper being outjumped by a comparative midget in front of millions. Type of thing that if it happened on the parks the goalie would still be having the piss ripped out of him for quite a while. Shilton doesn’t seem to be a particularly nice character, he gets no sympathy from me and his “Maradona was a great footballer but............” cuts no ice.

[The Lone Gunman]

Most probably was one of the most embarrassing as well as defining moments of Shilton’s long career (too long really, scrubbing about for clubs in his 40s) an international renowned goalkeeper being outjumped by a comparative midget in front of millions. Type of thing that if it happened on the parks the goalie would still be having the piss ripped out of him for quite a while. Shilton doesn’t seem to be a particularly nice character, he gets no sympathy from me and his “Maradona was a great footballer but............” cuts no ice.

I don’t think he’s looking for any sympathy from you, is he?

[splott parker]

I don’t think he’s looking for any sympathy from you, is he?

‘Phoned me last night, the whinging c*nt!!

[lardy]

I hate this sort of shit. Why on earth should Shilton or anyone else be obliged to say such a thing? .

It's a standard comment for someone in the public eye after a death. Bitch about him as much as you want at home, but the public statement is something textbook like delmbox suggested,

The reason is, in Shilton's case, that it doesn't leave him open to thousands of people laughing at how bitter he is at something that happened half a lifetime ago. I'm quite sure he is genuinely bitter but he doesn't gain anything by putting it out there. Again.

[delmbox]

I hate this sort of shit. Why on earth should Shilton or anyone else be obliged to say such a thing? Indeed, what does it matter what Shilton says? Maradona was a brilliant footballer, but he was also a complex character and, for many people, not a particularly likeable one. He's dead. Millions of his fellow countrymen will mourn his death as if he was some sort of messiah. Millions of other people will feel a bit sad because he was once great at playing football. Millions couldn't care less. It's not compulsory to have any thoughts for his family or his loved ones.

I wonder what El Diego would have thought or said about Shilton if the latter had died this week? Would he have been respectful or reverential when questioned by the press? Who knows, but I somehow doubt it.

As for suggesting that goal doesn't matter now, the fact of the matter is that it was one of the defining moments of Shilton's career, and Maradona's for that matter.

By the way, I think Shilton's a prick, but not because of anything he's said about Maradona.

He's not obliged to do anything, I just think he had two options when asked about Maradona's death - saying something like that or bringing up an occurence that happened in a game of football 30 years ago. Option A would have made him look good, Option B made him look like a churlish prick. His choice of course, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

[The Lone Gunman]

He's not obliged to do anything, I just think he had two options when asked about Maradona's death - saying something like that or bringing up an occurence that happened in a game of football 30 years ago. Option A would have made him look good to me, Option B made him look like a churlish prick to me. His choice of course, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Edited for you.

[delmbox]

Edited for you.

ooh good one

[The Lone Gunman]

ooh good one

Cheers.

The point is that many of those who already didn't like Shilton are likely to have taken umbrage with him saying anything detrimental about Maradona. Meanwhile, those who either like him or whose views somehow tally with his would respect him for being honest, while most people couldn't care less either way.

Personally, I think Shilton's a tool in most regards. However, I really detest all of the fake 'for the public' reactions and the faux respect or grief people tend to express whenever somebody famous snuffs it. I much prefer honesty to insincerity, whatever form it takes or whoever is expressing it.

[delmbox]

Cheers.

The point is that many of those who already didn't like Shilton are likely to have taken umbrage with him saying anything detrimental about Maradona. Meanwhile, those who either like him or whose views somehow tally with his would respect him for being honest, while most people couldn't care less either way.

Personally, I think Shilton's a tool in most regards. However, I really detest all of the fake 'for the public' reactions and the faux respect or grief people tend to express whenever somebody famous snuffs it. I much prefer honesty to insincerity, whatever form it takes or whoever is expressing it.

To be fair I don't actually disagree with you about fake outpourings of grief, it's just I think he's come across pretty small and churlish by talking about a handball a day after the guy's died, and I think if he wanted to avoid that then he could have

[Tuerto]

Cheers.

The point is that many of those who already didn't like Shilton are likely to have taken umbrage with him saying anything detrimental about Maradona. Meanwhile, those who either like him or whose views somehow tally with his would respect him for being honest, while most people couldn't care less either way.

Personally, I think Shilton's a tool in most regards. However, I really detest all of the fake 'for the public' reactions and the faux respect or grief people tend to express whenever somebody famous snuffs it. I much prefer honesty to insincerity, whatever form it takes or whoever is expressing it.

I didn't see what shilton had to say, but if he's still pissed about getting done by Maradona then that's up to him (obviously) he's got every right to express that. I would hope though, that he's at least concede that maradona was most certainly the best player of a generation and arguably the greatest player to have ever played the game, that's an absolute fact, and Shilton, as a professional, could at least attempt to separate the handball from maradona's ability. If he didn't do that, then he is a prized prick in my opinion.