Harris got City to the play offs. McCarthy got City on a 10 match unbeaten run. They're not bad managers, they just have a truly awful bunch of players from whom they squeezed every last iota of effort & commitment to go on a run. I only played local football as probably most here did, but just watching most of our players week in week out, you don't have to have a profound knowledge of the game to realize they're playing well above their comfort-zone.