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We wont sack Page now but he should never have been appointed.
I think people are overestimating the ability of some of our players.
Saying that the performances of our better players like Johnson , Ampadu were well below par. Unless we are seriously overestimating them as well.
If we did remove Page I think we should give Cameron Toshack an opportunity.
I dont disagree. We were cut apart by Armenia easily , 2 goals with players caught in possession , balls too easily going in the box. Even if we say Wales players are mostly good Championship players that should have been more than enough to beat Armenia let alone ship 4 and it could easily have been a couple more.
I dont think the Welsh FA will remove him though.
Nah not having that. Theres no way this wales squad should be outplayed by armenia like that. For me there was more than enough ability in that starting team to match armenia.
Or are we really saying the armenians were of greater individual ability which is why we lost?
No way. We lost because we have been poor for a few years now and page just has to go.
The set up of the team, the tactics and game management was a shambles.
Whether or not players are being overestimated or off the pace isn't the real problem here. Page is.
He was far too slow to change a game in Euro 2020/21 against Denmark and still reacts to what's going on in the game as if he's in an induced coma.
Never too bothered about Wales results as we all remember being really shiit but that performance was shocking.
Page saying its a "reality check..." for him I'm assuming? A result like last night has been in the offing since his tenure began.
He's either buying time or deluded.
I think Page did okay first up, but he and his team have been struggling for a while now and that four year contract felt like a mistake at the time.
Cameron Toshack seems a decent shout, Steve Cooper wouldn't take the job and I'm not sure about Nathan Jones as an international manager, but I can see us soldiering on with Page because of how much compensation we'd have to pay him if he was sacked.
A bunch of polls going around on Twitter today. One saying 83% want Page out. Another saying 96% Page out.
lets be honest, Page and Cookie both fell on their feet, they had a good team who would run through a brick wall for each other, oh and they had a certain Mr Bale
I always liked Pagey, he was proud of being asked to do the job, it brought into the current proud welsh thing that the players were all about, it worked at the time, but he isnt that tactically aware, when you take off Rambo ( a potential match winner ) when chasing the game and Bring on Morrell you know things aren't going well
But having said that, is the pool of players now getting back to being average at best, Morrell, Bradshaw, Broadhead all lower league players, we were lucky to have enjoyed that " golden generation "
Oh and its been mentioned, I bet 90% plus at the ground were English speaking Welsh supporters, its fine to speak English and still be a proud Welshie in my eyes, the FAW have certainly pushed the welsh speaking thing to the extreme, maybe its Time to ease of on that push for a while, as if results dont go our way, people will be looking for any old excuse to not feel part of it and leave it behind
I'm an English only speaking Welshie and have at no point felt I have been pushed to learn or speak Welsh.
To counter your final point wouldn't easing back on their Welsh language output alienate the Welsh speakers amongst our fanbase? Surely we should be encouraging everyone born or living here to feel an affinity with our national team.
So Welsh signage let in 4 goals last night?
The best players .....play together
Didn't that used to be the FAW mantra ?
It used to be in Welsh, on the badge
I like that
And the together stronger thing
And yma o hyd .......I love listening to that , its inspirational
He isn't capable of changing things and that comment he made about a reality check is worrying
What sums him up for me is when we were ready to bring on Williams & Morrell but delayed for 6 minutes because Armenia had an attacking throw in, classic lower league stuff. We were of course 3-1 down by the time they came on