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    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    There was an interview with one of the group on GMTV a couple of days ago.

    Said theyd been trying to get their voices heard for 30 years. The 2 presenters just shouted him down throughout the interview. He ended up storming off. It was shocking interviewing by a mainstream TV show.
    Genuinely glad you highlighted this so thank you. And thanks to Taunton Blue Genie for sending the link. I don't watch or listen to any mainstream media anymore, I'm not on Twitter or Facebook, this may sound strange but this is the only place I post.

    The interview (if it could be called that) was shocking to me. Liam is right. For 30 years + I and many others have been trying desperately hard to raise concerns regarding conservation and the environment. I'm heartbroken at the level of failure. There isn't a single thing that is better now than it was 30 years ago. The level of despondency I feel is off the scale. I can't believe how juvenile the debate is regarding these issues and the governments, shored up by Big Oil etc. have effectively silenced the debate for decades.

    Sure, Liam was like a lamb to the slaughter. But the insulation accusations are just a side-show. That's the same old guff we've been up against for decades. I've already acknowledged that the M25 protesters are misguided. But they also have a point. The hostility generated against environmentalists has been decades in the making, so we get called Tree-huggers, loons, scum. When will this sh*t end?

    I'm sorry I reacted the way I did yesterday. I'm never too proud to apologise and all I ask is some understanding of the deep frustration I feel.

    There are people who will risk their lives for the environment. That's been happening for 30 years too.

    Journalism died a long time ago. It's worse now with fake news and social media troll farms. The internet hasn't democratised our voices, it's drowned them out. Again.

    My own feeling is that it's too late. I actually feel sick writing those words. I've been shocked at some of the things I read on here but it's a football forum so what you gonna do? But to see the level of humiliation those three people put Liam through is more shocking.

    I spent a huge part of my life studying and learning and working and developing medications to make people's lives better. To improve quality of life. To save lives. I feel pissed on if I'm honest. I feel, when I see and hear the same stuff I've been listening to for decades and the same juvenile arguments, I feel like, what was it all for?

    I mentioned Cognitive Dissonance to you earlier and it's probably the only thing I can cling to as an explanation of why we're where we are. We, as a society, just can't deal with the consequences of our own actions so reject them outright.

    I stress, I'm not picking on you. I guess, after seeing that video, I just wanted to talk to someone, albeit on a football forum.

  2. #2

    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Genuinely glad you highlighted this so thank you. And thanks to Taunton Blue Genie for sending the link. I don't watch or listen to any mainstream media anymore, I'm not on Twitter or Facebook, this may sound strange but this is the only place I post.

    The interview (if it could be called that) was shocking to me. Liam is right. For 30 years + I and many others have been trying desperately hard to raise concerns regarding conservation and the environment. I'm heartbroken at the level of failure. There isn't a single thing that is better now than it was 30 years ago. The level of despondency I feel is off the scale. I can't believe how juvenile the debate is regarding these issues and the governments, shored up by Big Oil etc. have effectively silenced the debate for decades.

    Sure, Liam was like a lamb to the slaughter. But the insulation accusations are just a side-show. That's the same old guff we've been up against for decades. I've already acknowledged that the M25 protesters are misguided. But they also have a point. The hostility generated against environmentalists has been decades in the making, so we get called Tree-huggers, loons, scum. When will this sh*t end?

    I'm sorry I reacted the way I did yesterday. I'm never too proud to apologise and all I ask is some understanding of the deep frustration I feel.

    There are people who will risk their lives for the environment. That's been happening for 30 years too.

    Journalism died a long time ago. It's worse now with fake news and social media troll farms. The internet hasn't democratised our voices, it's drowned them out. Again.

    My own feeling is that it's too late. I actually feel sick writing those words. I've been shocked at some of the things I read on here but it's a football forum so what you gonna do? But to see the level of humiliation those three people put Liam through is more shocking.

    I spent a huge part of my life studying and learning and working and developing medications to make people's lives better. To improve quality of life. To save lives. I feel pissed on if I'm honest. I feel, when I see and hear the same stuff I've been listening to for decades and the same juvenile arguments, I feel like, what was it all for?

    I mentioned Cognitive Dissonance to you earlier and it's probably the only thing I can cling to as an explanation of why we're where we are. We, as a society, just can't deal with the consequences of our own actions so reject them outright.

    I stress, I'm not picking on you. I guess, after seeing that video, I just wanted to talk to someone, albeit on a football forum.
    Possibly when the shockingly greedy, insensitive, uncaring, inhuman and loathsome boomers, and those of an older age, who are in a position to mould public opinion on this planet have left this mortal coil.

  3. #3

    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Possibly when the shockingly greedy, insensitive, uncaring, inhuman and loathsome boomers, and those of an older age, who are in a position to mould public opinion on this planet have left this mortal coil.
    Cheerio then.

  4. #4

    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    Cheerio then.
    If you think there is any way that I belong among the sort of people I was talking about, you’ve either completely misunderstood my point or think I have an influence thousands or millions of times beyond what I actually do.

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