20mph -Protest this saturday on M4-PLAN AHEAD

[pipster]

Like the good socialist he is - Drakeford lives on Cathedral road (aka Millionaires row)
They should do a demo on Cathedral road, the problem is - his mate, Labour councillor - Caro Wild has just spent £1,000,000 on a bus lane (that saves 30 seconds bus time) whilst at the same time causes traffic jams on Cathedral road and more air pollution. As well as removing available parking outside peoples homes - the bus lane is an absolute success at the Senedd - as they all pat Drakey on the back for saving 30 seconds (and saving the planet as well - obviously)

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Like the good socialist he is - Drakeford lives on Cathedral road (aka Millionaires row)
They should do a demo on Cathedral road, the problem is - his mate, Labour councillor - Caro Wild has just spent £1,000,000 on a bus lane (that saves 30 seconds bus time) whilst at the same time causes traffic jams on Cathedral road and more air pollution. As well as removing available parking outside peoples homes - the bus lane is an absolute success at the Senedd - as they all pat Drakey on the back for saving 30 seconds (and saving the planet as well - obviously)

I imagine if Cathedral road is busy, it'll save buses much more than 30 seconds.

Some will disagree here, but there's no way the rate of road building can match the increasing number of cars on the road, meaning roads get clogged up. There has to be other options instead of just building more roads, particuarly where it's impossible to do so.

People moan that public transport isn't good enough to leave the car at home, yet those same people moan when public transport priority measures are implemented.

[cyril evans awaydays]

I imagine if Cathedral road is busy, it'll save buses much more than 30 seconds.

Some will disagree here, but there's no way the rate of road building can match the increasing number of cars on the road, meaning roads get clogged up. There has to be other options instead of just building more roads, particuarly where it's impossible to do so.

People moan that public transport isn't good enough to leave the car at home, yet those same people moan when public transport priority measures are implemented.

Living in England I don't have much of a dog in this fight but it it quite amusing watching people concurrently whinging about a speed limit restriction that slows twenty people in cars by 30 seconds then about 20 or so people on a bus going 30 seconds quicker down a similar street!

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Living in England I don't have much of a dog in this fight but it it quite amusing watching people concurrently whinging about a speed limit restriction that slows twenty people in cars by 30 seconds then about 20 or so people on a bus going 30 seconds quicker down a similar street!

How dare public transport offer a viable alternative!

[North Cardiff Blue]

Living in England I don't have much of a dog in this fight but it it quite amusing watching people concurrently whinging about a speed limit restriction that slows twenty people in cars by 30 seconds then about 20 or so people on a bus going 30 seconds quicker down a similar street!

That's not right is it, there are a thousand cars to every bus, and they both get one lane each, so obviously the cars are stuck in traffic and the bus lanes are empty.

[North Cardiff Blue]

I imagine if Cathedral road is busy, it'll save buses much more than 30 seconds.

Some will disagree here, but there's no way the rate of road building can match the increasing number of cars on the road, meaning roads get clogged up. There has to be other options instead of just building more roads, particuarly where it's impossible to do so.

People moan that public transport isn't good enough to leave the car at home, yet those same people moan when public transport priority measures are implemented.

It's not that the existing roads couldn't cope they could, they've just halved the lanes and handed them over to buses that are useless and too infrequent and cycle lanes that are empty because it P!sses down every day. It's a dictatorship, you dopey welsh will do as I say.