We don need no educashun....?

[light up the darkness]

The education system is the single biggest system of social constraint outside of the prison system

[WJ99mobile]

The education system is the single biggest system of social constraint outside of the prison system

I'm not sure whether you're advocating for education or not there?

My fiancé is a teacher. The good that schools do is far beyond just Pythagoras

Social mobility and education is the biggest factor why poor stay poor and the rich stay rich.

[IanD]

The CV pandemic has posed the question "what are schools for"? Given that much learning is neither constrained by time or space and that education is "what you remember after you have forgotten everything you learned in the classroom", schools' role in society is changing. WFH and LFH will become a flexible norm with schools acting as centres for training, sporting activities and enrichment activities for example. Universities are already trying to get to grips with the existential threat of online learning replacing campus-based learning. It's educashun Jim, but not as we know it.

[dml1954]

The education system is the single biggest system of social constraint outside of the prison system

Presumably, if you believe that, you also believe that people who get an education, work hard all their lives to better themselves and manage to put savings aside as well, should have all their money taken off them by the state and given to people who leave school early, sit around all day doing bog all and sponge off the rest of the population by claiming every benefit going under the sun. God help us all.

[Cyclops]

Presumably, if you believe that, you also believe that people who get an education, work hard all their lives to better themselves and manage to put savings aside as well, should have all their money taken off them by the state and given to people who leave school early, sit around all day doing bog all and sponge off the rest of the population by claiming every benefit going under the sun. God help us all.

But isn't that what happens anyway? The educated workers pay a huge wedge of Income Tax, VAT, National Insurance Contributions, Inheritance Tax etc etc which goes into the pot from which the low income/unemployed groups are paid their benefits.

(Damn. I completely forgot you are a troll spouting garbage to produce an effect.)

[light up the darkness]

Presumably, if you believe that, you also believe that people who get an education, work hard all their lives to better themselves and manage to put savings aside as well, should have all their money taken off them by the state and given to people who leave school early, sit around all day doing bog all and sponge off the rest of the population by claiming every benefit going under the sun. God help us all.

You managed to spin that in an untended direction.

There are many functions of education. The question for me is this. Are schools as they are currently formatted (that is with a subject based curriculum which is largely arbitrary outside of reading, writing and arithmetic) the best way of addressing the the things which society values which include;
* Transmission of Culture. Education instills and transmits social norms values and beliefs into the next generation.
* Social integration.
* Career Selection.
* Techniques of Learning Skills.
* Socialization.
* Rational Thinking.
* Adjustment in Society.