Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
So your definition of an average Joe is different. It doesn't make for a balanced story,
It appears perfectly normal for young lads to go fishing be attracted to girls .....or boys .....go fishing ......drink alcohol ......look at porn , listen to rock , disco , metal etc

And young women too

When I was young once you realised God was a myth you stopped being dragged along to church and found other things to do with your time

I grew up a Catholic, my mother's side of the family were from Ireland originally . My mother still watches mass online as does my sister but nobody else in the family is interested . My cousins, all secular , grew up mountain biking , swimming , fishing , sailing , my sisters kids into cycling , horses , running . No interest in church at all .

It's like this for most people who are fed religion but realise its daft . The local Catholic church where I was first taken , I don't know of any of the kids who were there when I was 12 who go now .

It's boring and has very little relevance to most people and most people brought up in religious families fly the nest .

I think that's good as a reliance on faith to get you through life is not very realistic .

For example at Xmas my mother had pneumonia and was in hospital . In March the doctor phoned to say she was being discharged . One of mum's church friends , a very kind lady but totally sucked in by her Catholic faith phoned up and said how is mum ......I said she's coming home .......she said I knew all our prayers would be answered !

Mum came home , fell over and broke her hip and was back in the ambulance .

I mean either praying is a complete waste of time or they were not praying hard enough