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    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Nonsense on numerous levels. You sound like a fanatic and pretty selfish too. Good luck blocking the M4 then mate. Not sure that tin foil hat will protect you from traffic. There are ways and means of protesting and this isn't it, not least because it damages what is an important cause and clearly there is total disregard for anyone caught up in it.

    Incidentally, UK carbon emissions have dramatically fallen in the last two decades and we are well above most countries in the use of clean energy.

    So quite clearly voting is getting us somewhere in this regard so your post is wrong on almost every level.
    Exactly the same arguments used against Mandela, King, Ghandi. I’ve been listening to people like you for decades. If your way of doing things is the right one, then wouldn’t the environment be in a better place now? We knew all about the extinction event on the horizon decades ago?

    Your way of doing things hasn’t worked……mate.

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    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by Citizen's Nephew View Post
    Exactly the same arguments used against Mandela, King, Ghandi. I’ve been listening to people like you for decades. If your way of doing things is the right one, then wouldn’t the environment be in a better place now? We knew all about the extinction event on the horizon decades ago?

    Your way of doing things hasn’t worked……mate.
    Ghandi and Mandela were fighting against undemocratic governments; in Mandelas case against a racist government who kept people as second class citizens.

    Martin Luther King was protesting against a system that treated people differently because of their race.

    To compare that to Tarquin, Esme and Talulah blocking the M4 because of their radical beliefs in respect of climate change (when our country has made substantial positive moves in recent years and is far far better at this than others) is narcissistic and unreasonable.

    Climate change is a critical topic, but you have to take people with you. This kind of action may work well with the Socialist Worker crowd, but in the real world it pisses people off, causes great disruption and turns people against the cause.

    Personally I think the principle of properly insulating homes is absolutely critical; it helps us use less energy and theoretically saves consumers money too.

    The issue is the way they go about it in a selfish way and also the way they ignore the progress made.

    As stated; if they want to make a big difference then argue against imports from China, protest at the Chinese or Indian embasssy, support a home-grown agricultural sectors.

    There is loads to do without f*****g over ordinary folk trying to live their lives.

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    Re: M25 Blocked in Both Directions

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    Ghandi and Mandela were fighting against undemocratic governments; in Mandelas case against a racist government who kept people as second class citizens.

    Martin Luther King was protesting against a system that treated people differently because of their race.

    To compare that to Tarquin, Esme and Talulah blocking the M4 because of their radical beliefs in respect of climate change (when our country has made substantial positive moves in recent years and is far far better at this than others) is narcissistic and unreasonable.

    Climate change is a critical topic, but you have to take people with you. This kind of action may work well with the Socialist Worker crowd, but in the real world it pisses people off, causes great disruption and turns people against the cause.

    Personally I think the principle of properly insulating homes is absolutely critical; it helps us use less energy and theoretically saves consumers money too.

    The issue is the way they go about it in a selfish way and also the way they ignore the progress made.

    As stated; if they want to make a big difference then argue against imports from China, protest at the Chinese or Indian embasssy, support a home-grown agricultural sectors.

    There is loads to do without f*****g over ordinary folk trying to live their lives.
    Well said that man

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