Time to get of the fence. Should Bulut go or stay.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

I think a fixed 1 year contract will be best

If he fecks up and we are down the bottom 6 then it's not going to cost us a bomb to sack him

If he improves our style of play and we score some goals and make a good shot of it we roll the contract on ?

I mean where is the difficulty in this ?

My issue is that we end up doing the same next season - mind numbing football, can't open most defences in open play, but pinch enough wins to keep us mid-table.

I don't see how that is any sort of progression, unless we're giving up on that and just hope for survival again.

There surely has to be a target of aiming for Premier League promotion in 3-4 seasons, playing a type of football that would suit the Premier League, with a younger squad that builds together. Instead, we have no plan, we lurch from season to season hoping for the best with absolutely no structure.

[City123]

My issue is that we end up doing the same next season - mind numbing football, can't open most defences in open play, but pinch enough wins to keep us mid-table.

I don't see how that is any sort of progression, unless we're giving up on that and just hope for survival again.

There surely has to be a target of aiming for Premier League promotion in 3-4 seasons, playing a type of football that would suit the Premier League, with a younger squad that builds together. Instead, we have no plan, we lurch from season to season hoping for the best with absolutely no structure.

Trouble is we'll likely stop pinching wins. Last minute turnarounds having been outplayed are completely unsustainable and not a strategy to build on.

[North Cardiff Blue]

My issue is that we end up doing the same next season - mind numbing football, can't open most defences in open play, but pinch enough wins to keep us mid-table.

I don't see how that is any sort of progression, unless we're giving up on that and just hope for survival again.

There surely has to be a target of aiming for Premier League promotion in 3-4 seasons, playing a type of football that would suit the Premier League, with a younger squad that builds together. Instead, we have no plan, we lurch from season to season hoping for the best with absolutely no structure.

He'll improve it for sure, you remember January when he tried to sign a top Striker and an attacking midfielder but we couldn't compete as it was an over expensive January window.

A team builds in stages, the first stage is complete we are safe and very solid, the next stage build a more attacking team.

A one-year deal to see what he can do, otherwise a Trollope/Hudson novice will take us back into the bottom four.

[Dembe]

He'll improve it for sure, you remember January when he tried to sign a top Striker and an attacking midfielder but we couldn't compete as it was an over expensive January window.

A team builds in stages, the first stage is complete we are safe and very solid, the next stage build a more attacking team.

A one-year deal to see what he can do, otherwise a Trollope/Hudson novice will take us back into the bottom four.

We lost 3-1 on the weekend to a below average championship team.

Conceded 3 at home against Hull who are a mid table team just like us.

Conceded 2 against Sunderland and the Jacks, 4 against Norwich, 3 against Plymouth, 3 against Leeds, 4 in the cup 4 Sheff Weds, 2 v Plymouth in a 2-2 draw, 3 v hull away etc etc.

Seem solid as a rock at the back, fair play, time to loosen off the defensive shackles and have a go at teams because we're absolutely sorted defensively.

[North Cardiff Blue]

We lost 3-1 on the weekend to a below average championship team.

Conceded 3 at home against Hull who are a mid table team just like us.

Conceded 2 against Sunderland and the Jacks, 4 against Norwich, 3 against Plymouth, 3 against Leeds, 4 in the cup 4 Sheff Weds, 2 v Plymouth in a 2-2 draw, 3 v hull away etc etc.

Seem solid as a rock at the back, fair play, time to loosen off the defensive shackles and have a go at teams because we're absolutely sorted defensively.

The last six games we've won two the same as three of the top five, and more than leeds and West Brom.

Hull are seventh?

Of the top 10 only Norwich have won more games than us in the last six winning three.

The squad is not deep enough, we started well, dropped off a lot by December /January, then improved a bit with a few additions, with a decent Striker and better attacking midfielder we will look much better.

[J R Hartley]

The last six games we've won two the same as three of the top five, and more than leeds and West Brom.

Hull are seventh?

Of the top 10 only Norwich have won more games than us in the last six winning three.

The squad is not deep enough, we started well, dropped off a lot by December /January, then improved a bit with a few additions, with a decent Striker and better attacking midfielder we will look much better.

A swerve and diversion a Tory politician would be proud of that one.

[North Cardiff Blue]

A swerve and diversion a Tory politician would be proud of that one.

The league doesn't lie, we are where we are and it's a huge improvement, no Mick is not coming back so calm down

[Dembe]

The league doesn't lie, we are where we are and it's a huge improvement, no Mick is not coming back so calm down

Aren't you north of 50 years old with grandkids? Doesn't posting like this embarrass you at all?

[Dembe]

The last six games we've won two the same as three of the top five, and more than leeds and West Brom.

Hull are seventh?

Of the top 10 only Norwich have won more games than us in the last six winning three.

The squad is not deep enough, we started well, dropped off a lot by December /January, then improved a bit with a few additions, with a decent Striker and better attacking midfielder we will look much better.

My reply was about how we aren't solid defensively. Your reply is waffle.

hull were either level on points with us or a point above when we played.

I will ask you in a different way. If Cardiffs defence was foundations for a house, would you build on top of it and put your missus, kids, grandkids, dogs etc in that house?

[North Cardiff Blue]

My reply was about how we aren't solid defensively. Your reply is waffle.

hull were either level on points with us or a point above when we played.

I will ask you in a different way. If Cardiffs defence was foundations for a house, would you build on top of it and put your missus, kids, grandkids, dogs etc in that house?

Hull are seventh, you said mid-table nonsense.

Cardiff City's defensive record this season has been fairly good when you consider we stayed up last year due to points deductions, and Kaba's goals. Eric was saying it's one of the better defences in the league, but we don't score enough goals.

How can anyone build a house on a football club's record? Talk about waffle

[J R Hartley]

Hull are seventh, you said mid-table nonsense.

Cardiff City's defensive record this season has been fairly good when you consider we stayed up last year due to points deductions, and Kaba's goals. Eric was saying it's one of the better defences in the league, but we don't score enough goals.

How can anyone build a house on a football club's record? Talk about waffle

Weve conceded 60 goals this season, only 7 teams have conceded more so not sure where this super solid defence or one of the better defences in the league claim has come from.

[Dembe]

Hull are seventh, you said mid-table nonsense.

Cardiff City's defensive record this season has been fairly good when you consider we stayed up last year due to points deductions, and Kaba's goals. Eric was saying it's one of the better defences in the league, but we don't score enough goals.

How can anyone build a house on a football club's record? Talk about waffle

Hull, when we played them, were either level on points or a point above us.

I am not considering the myriad of scenarios you're going to pepper us with, its a poor tactic you use to distract away from the fact you can't give a straight answer.

I suggest looking up the definition of "analogy" although I suspect you already knew what I was getting at with the comparison between a non solid foundation and our non solid defence, yet another silly tactic you employ to get around things on here.

to save you a search

analogy
/əˈnalədʒi/
noun
a comparison between one thing and another, typically for the purpose of explanation or clarification.
"an analogy between the workings of nature and those of human societies"
a correspondence or partial similarity.
"the syndrome is called deep dysgraphia because of its analogy to deep dyslexia"
a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects.
"works of art were seen as an analogy for works of nature"

[North Cardiff Blue]

We lost 3-1 on the weekend to a below average championship team.

Conceded 3 at home against Hull who are a mid table team just like us.

Conceded 2 against Sunderland and the Jacks, 4 against Norwich, 3 against Plymouth, 3 against Leeds, 4 in the cup 4 Sheff Weds, 2 v Plymouth in a 2-2 draw, 3 v hull away etc etc.

Seem solid as a rock at the back, fair play, time to loosen off the defensive shackles and have a go at teams because we're absolutely sorted defensively.

Haven't got time to look back on all those games but people often comment we have a fairly decent defensive record, probably Runner cost us a lot of those goals and bad defensive performances. We can blame Bulut for that, I'm not sure what happened there he seemed to lose the plot along with confidence in Alnwick.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Haven't got time to look back on all those games but people often comment we have a fairly decent defensive record, probably Runner cost us a lot of those goals and bad defensive performances. We can blame Bulut for that, I'm not sure what happened there he seemed to lose the plot along with confidence in Alnwick.

This is just a load of stats just looking at all of this.

Runarrson - 8 conceded from 6 games (1.33 per game)
Alnwick - 33 conceded from 24 games (1.38 per game)
Hovarth - 19 conceded from 13 games (1.46 per game)

Runarrson was in goal for the Ipswich capitulation, then returned in the league from the Preston game where he conceded 5 goals in 5 games and won 2 of those 5, but all wasn't right I agree.

Assuming we'll concede 2 more goals in our last 3 games this season, it'll have been our second worst season for goals conceded in the second tier since our last relegation from this level in 1985. The worst was the 68 we conceded in 2021/22, though conceding 26 in McCarthy's 14 games (at 1.86 a game) was a big part of the reason for that. Under Morison we conceded 42 goals in 32 games that season at an average of 1.31 per game. This season's average is 1.40 per game

We've kept 12 clean sheets so far this season. As things stand, we've only managed fewer than that in this division twice since 2003.

So, by our own standards in this division over 20 years, no, it's not been a fairly decent defensive record.

While we're at it, our scoring stats make for equally dismal reading.

Since 2003 this is currently our joint 2nd lowest for goals scored in the second tier, with the measly 41 we scored last season being the worst. 3 goals will propel us to 4rd lowest but miles away from 5th.

This is looking like being our 10th most successful season at this level since 2003 with the 2nd worst defence and 4th worst attack stats. We could have either our 5th or 7th best win tally since then. We'll certainly have our 3rd worst defeat tally.

In all of that there are a few positives and negatives. It explains to a point why some fans are happy with this season and why some aren't.

[North Cardiff Blue]

This is just a load of stats just looking at all of this.

Runarrson - 8 conceded from 6 games (1.33 per game)
Alnwick - 33 conceded from 24 games (1.38 per game)
Hovarth - 19 conceded from 13 games (1.46 per game)

Runarrson was in goal for the Ipswich capitulation, then returned in the league from the Preston game where he conceded 5 goals in 5 games and won 2 of those 5, but all wasn't right I agree.

Assuming we'll concede 2 more goals in our last 3 games this season, it'll have been our second worst season for goals conceded in the second tier since our last relegation from this level in 1985. The worst was the 68 we conceded in 2021/22, though conceding 26 in McCarthy's 14 games (at 1.86 a game) was a big part of the reason for that. Under Morison we conceded 42 goals in 32 games that season at an average of 1.31 per game. This season's average is 1.40 per game

We've kept 12 clean sheets so far this season. As things stand, we've only managed fewer than that in this division twice since 2003.

So, by our own standards in this division over 20 years, no, it's not been a fairly decent defensive record.

While we're at it, our scoring stats make for equally dismal reading.

Since 2003 this is currently our joint 2nd lowest for goals scored in the second tier, with the measly 41 we scored last season being the worst. 3 goals will propel us to 4rd lowest but miles away from 5th.

This is looking like being our 10th most successful season at this level since 2003 with the 2nd worst defence and 4th worst attack stats. We could have either our 5th or 7th best win tally since then. We'll certainly have our 3rd worst defeat tally.

In all of that there are a few positives and negatives. It explains to a point why some fans are happy with this season and why some aren't.

Fair enough good stats work.

They seem a bit odd and it has been an inconsistent season, I'm surprised that Runnarson's record is better than Horvaths, especially when you consider he didn't have Phillips in front, maybe we leaked less with McGuinness than Phillips, that would be a surprise if true too?

8th best on clean sheets, and we have won a lot of games, compared to drawing.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Fair enough good stats work.

They seem a bit odd and it has been an inconsistent season, I'm surprised that Runnarson's record is better than Horvaths, especially when you consider he didn't have Phillips in front, maybe we leaked less with McGuinness than Phillips, that would be a surprise if true too?

8th best on clean sheets, and we have won a lot of games, compared to drawing.

We've certainly won more games that were destined to be draws than we've lost, which is one of the reasons we're as high up the table as we are.

8th best this season for clean sheets yet one of our poorest in 19 seasons at this level is a bit of an eye opener which needed a little more investigating.

There have been 271 clean sheets in the Championship this season with 3 rounds of matches to go. The number of clean sheets in the last few seasons reads 333, 328, 355 and 291. It may not surprise you that in the seasons with more clean sheets, there were fewer goals scored. This season there have been 1371 goals scored in the Championship, higher than all of the previous three seasons. In 2019/20 there were 1457 goals scored and, with 36 games left, there's every chance that figure will be overtaken.

So the clean sheets stat looks ok for this season in context with this season being one of lots of goals and fewer clean sheets overall.

[North Cardiff Blue]

We lost 3-1 on the weekend to a below average championship team.

Conceded 3 at home against Hull who are a mid table team just like us.

Conceded 2 against Sunderland and the Jacks, 4 against Norwich, 3 against Plymouth, 3 against Leeds, 4 in the cup 4 Sheff Weds, 2 v Plymouth in a 2-2 draw, 3 v hull away etc etc.

Seem solid as a rock at the back, fair play, time to loosen off the defensive shackles and have a go at teams because we're absolutely sorted defensively.

You said Hull are a mid table team just like us?

No we are 11th they are 7th, one below the playoffs?