Klopp vs Pep

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Messi never won’t it without Pep either.
Perhaps they both need to win it without the other to achieve a type of immortality

Messi has won the CL without Pep.

Klopp for me, he’s built football clubs. Pep has taken extremely good teams to another level. Klopp has taken 2 decent sides to the same level as Pep. And he did a cracking job at Mainz

[19bluebirds27]

Messi has won the CL without Pep.

Klopp for me, he’s built football clubs. Pep has taken extremely good teams to another level. Klopp has taken 2 decent sides to the same level as Pep. And he did a cracking job at Mainz

I stand corrected on messi other CL medals without pep.

And you echo my comments earlier in the thread about Klopp taking his teams to that level.
Could have been more but he was probably was unfortunate to run into Bayern Munich with Dortmund and Madrid with Gareth Bale in the other finals.