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    I think people mention Labour because they are keen to make sure this is a conversation about rule breaking and the application of the law as opposed to a party political broadcast by the CCMB Labour Party.

    Net is tightening on Starmer. Personally I have little sympathy given how sanctimonious they have been. 30 currys at 10pm, beer...it sounds more like a party than a slice of cake and happy birthday in your office at lunchtime to me.

    Sorry to use the word squirm alongside Susanna Reid, but here you go..
    https://order-order.com/2022/05/04/k...-were-working/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    I think people mention Labour because they are keen to make sure this is a conversation about rule breaking and the application of the law as opposed to a party political broadcast by the CCMB Labour Party.

    Net is tightening on Starmer. Personally I have little sympathy given how sanctimonious they have been. 30 currys at 10pm, beer...it sounds more like a party than a slice of cake and happy birthday in your office at lunchtime to me.

    Sorry to use the word squirm alongside Susanna Reid, but here you go..
    https://order-order.com/2022/05/04/k...-were-working/
    And then posts Guido Fawkes with a straight face

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    And then posts Guido Fawkes with a straight face
    It's a video from Good Morning Britain.

    Nonetheless, you clearly don't read Guido Fawkes. A quick glance through of the last 15 stories shows a pretty good balance of who they criticise - and they do criticise all sides.

    So, do you read Guido Fawkes and therefore know it criticises all sides? Or do you not read it and therefore why would you pass judgment on it?

    For me it's one of around 10-15 websites, blogs and newspapers that are required reading to have a good grasp of what is going on in British politics.

    Last 15 stories:
    1 - Story on Starmer and beer gate from GMB
    2 - Story on informal Lib - Lab pact in parts of the country
    3 - Story on Tory MP stepping down and criticising him
    4 - Story mocking Labour election leaflets
    5 - Boris's speech to the Ukraine parliament
    6 - Lib Dem candidates saucy photos
    7 - Murdoch owned Talk TV's shit viewing figures
    8 - Full Trevor Noah speech given to white house press dinner
    9 - Starmer and beer gate
    10 - Tories allegedly giving sexiest of the year awards to MPs
    11 - David Lammy on beergate
    12 - Green Party on wanting to leave NATO
    13 - Starmer interview pieces
    14 - Kwasi Kwarteng interviews
    15 -Tory MP resigns over porn

  4. #4

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    It's a video from Good Morning Britain.

    Nonetheless, you clearly don't read Guido Fawkes. A quick glance through of the last 15 stories shows a pretty good balance of who they criticise - and they do criticise all sides.

    So, do you read Guido Fawkes and therefore know it criticises all sides? Or do you not read it and therefore why would you pass judgment on it?

    For me it's one of around 10-15 websites, blogs and newspapers that are required reading to have a good grasp of what is going on in British politics.

    Last 15 stories:
    1 - Story on Starmer and beer gate from GMB
    2 - Story on informal Lib - Lab pact in parts of the country
    3 - Story on Tory MP stepping down and criticising him
    4 - Story mocking Labour election leaflets
    5 - Boris's speech to the Ukraine parliament
    6 - Lib Dem candidates saucy photos
    7 - Murdoch owned Talk TV's shit viewing figures
    8 - Full Trevor Noah speech given to white house press dinner
    9 - Starmer and beer gate
    10 - Tories allegedly giving sexiest of the year awards to MPs
    11 - David Lammy on beergate
    12 - Green Party on wanting to leave NATO
    13 - Starmer interview pieces
    14 - Kwasi Kwarteng interviews
    15 -Tory MP resigns over porn
    No.3 is a quick sentence, not a story.

    Do you really believe the rest of those "stories" are fair and unbiased?

    Guido Fawkes in a nutshell, here:

    Screenshot_20220504-120732.jpg

    Links to other stories that meet the same criteria as Order Order. Seems balanced to me.

    If you think that this is one of the 10-15 sites people should use to get a grasp on British politics, may I also suggest The Daily Mail website and comments section for further balance, neutrality and nuance.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tito Fuente View Post
    No.3 is a quick sentence, not a story.

    Do you really believe the rest of those "stories" are fair and unbiased?

    Guido Fawkes in a nutshell, here:

    Screenshot_20220504-120732.jpg

    Links to other stories that meet the same criteria as Order Order. Seems balanced to me.

    If you think that this is one of the 10-15 sites people should use to get a grasp on British politics, may I also suggest The Daily Mail website and comments section for further balance, neutrality and nuance.
    Guido Fawkes has an angle; it's broadly libertarian and anti-establishment etc. But yes I think it is broadly neutral in terms of going after all political parties equally. Either way, only a fool would rely on it entirely, hence why I would say it's one of the top 15 or so sources to get a good grasp of whats going on. It's real strength is in it's scoops.

    Incidentally; two new stories now up today. If you think they don't go after all parties, I would humbly suggest you are wrong, and if you read it more you would realise that

    1 - Tom, Newton Dunns (ex Sun journalist) on Murdoch owned Talked TV being mocked for low viewing figures
    https://order-order.com/2022/05/04/t...ers-on-talktv/

    2 - Hartlepool Tories criticising the Westminster party

    For what its worth, I think the following are required reading

    1 - Guardian - for a slightly dreary, dreamy left wing perspective. Rolling daily news coverage is exceptional, opinion pieces very biased
    2 - Daily Mail - for a spiky, populist right wing perspective. Digs up a lot of dirt, opinion pieces more diverse than people give it credit for
    3 - BBC, obviously.
    4 - WalesOnline. Not great, but required here.
    5 -Reuters for an international perspective
    6 - Euronews to keep abreast of european news
    7 -TradingEconomics.com. For facts, devoid of opinion
    8 - Guido Fawkes for scoops and it's perspective
    9 - The NEw Statesman sometimes
    10 - The Spectator sometimes
    11 - The Times - paper of record, good diversity of opinion
    12 - The i. An excellent newspaper
    13 - Unherd website - does what it says on the tin - some excellent journalism on there
    14 - Britainelects on twitter - excellent electoral analysis
    15 -politics.co.uk. Good for general stuff.
    https://order-order.com/2022/05/04/l...n-westminster/

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