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    Quote Originally Posted by ToTaL ITK View Post
    we've had these scares before haven't we.Bird flu mexican flu etc etc even aids scared the hell out of people
    this is a nasty virus at it spreads quickly
    there are of course people at risk be it flu hot weather or smog.
    I can't honestly in living memory remember a time when countries got quarantined, Serie A was completely stopped, US States declared states of emergency, Champions League matches were played behind closed doors and all the rest of it. And I remember bird flu, ebola and so on.

    Like I said, I'm not panicking. I'm living completely normally and will continue to do so until told otherwise but the refusal by some people to acknowledge that the steps that are being taken internationally in reaction to this outbreak mark is out as something different and potentially more worrying really confuses me

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I can't honestly in living memory remember a time when countries got quarantined, Serie A was completely stopped, US States declared states of emergency, Champions League matches were played behind closed doors and all the rest of it. And I remember bird flu, ebola and so on.

    Like I said, I'm not panicking. I'm living completely normally and will continue to do so until told otherwise but the refusal by some people to acknowledge that the steps that are being taken internationally in reaction to this outbreak mark is out as something different and potentially more worrying really confuses me

    Is it wrong for people to question the reason why these steps are being taken?

    As things stand, 2 months into the outbreak, the 9th most affected "region" is a ship. As things stand the death toll world wide is 4,600. Of course, every one of those is a tragedy but we still don't know how many died OF coronovirus, and how many died WITH coronovirus.

    Also, as things stand, the UK has been overtaken by Switzerland (a country a 7th the size of the UK), Norway (a country 1/13th the size of the UK), Denmark (a country also 1/13th the size of the UK), the Netherlands (a country a quarter the size of the UK) and Sweden (1/6th the size of the UK) in terms of numbers of cases.

    In fact, the UK are 29th in terms of number of cases per million.

    Italy are the only Government to have locked down. It seems an over reaction, either that or Switzerland, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Qatar, Kuwait, Singapore, South Korea and Bahrain are completely incompetent. I wonder why people are putting so much weight on Italy's decision, but without considering the choices other Governments in similar predicaments are making?

    I also reiterate, in Italy there are 206 cases per million people. One in 50,000 people. I've been in an office where two people have a cold at the same time. I would have to be in an Italian offce of 100,000 people to get the same experience.

    It really is simple, wash your hands, avoid touching your face. If you get any illness, stay at home and don't spread it. With common sense, this thing will disappear quickly - but when did the world last exhibit common sense. This thread is testament to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Is it wrong for people to question the reason why these steps are being taken?

    As things stand, 2 months into the outbreak, the 9th most affected "region" is a ship. As things stand the death toll world wide is 4,600. Of course, every one of those is a tragedy but we still don't know how many died OF coronovirus, and how many died WITH coronovirus.

    Also, as things stand, the UK has been overtaken by Switzerland (a country a 7th the size of the UK), Norway (a country 1/13th the size of the UK), Denmark (a country also 1/13th the size of the UK), the Netherlands (a country a quarter the size of the UK) and Sweden (1/6th the size of the UK) in terms of numbers of cases.

    In fact, the UK are 29th in terms of number of cases per million.

    Italy are the only Government to have locked down. It seems an over reaction, either that or Switzerland, the Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Qatar, Kuwait, Singapore, South Korea and Bahrain are completely incompetent. I wonder why people are putting so much weight on Italy's decision, but without considering the choices other Governments in similar predicaments are making?

    I also reiterate, in Italy there are 206 cases per million people. One in 50,000 people. I've been in an office where two people have a cold at the same time. I would have to be in an Italian offce of 100,000 people to get the same experience.

    It really is simple, wash your hands, avoid touching your face. If you get any illness, stay at home and don't spread it. With common sense, this thing will disappear quickly - but when did the world last exhibit common sense. This thread is testament to that.
    I give up. Let's agree to disagree and hope you and your mates are right

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    Italy is closing everything bar pharmacies and food shops.

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    I can't help feeling that we in the UK are in the phoney war stage. I presume we Brits are not genetically that different from folk in Italy yet we are mostly going about our day-to-day business as usual when Italy is in virtual lockdown. I think we must surely be on the cusp of a sudden exponential increase in the number of cases of coronavirus? Are we just incredibly lucky or is there some inherent immunity that most of us possess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    I can't help feeling that we in the UK are in the phoney war stage. I presume we Brits are not genetically that different from folk in Italy yet we are mostly going about our day-to-day business as usual when Italy is in virtual lockdown. I think we must surely be on the cusp of a sudden exponential increase in the number of cases of coronavirus? Are we just incredibly lucky or is there some inherent immunity that most of us possess?
    Or is it that Italians are more sociable than us? Not sure what the weather has been like in Italy lately, particularly the north, but the bloody rain we’ve had here for what seems like forever may be keeping people at home. We obviously mingle on public transport, shops & sporting events but there hasn’t been any decent evenings to get out and mix. Are we a bit less ‘touchy feely’ than Latin folk? I just picture Italian people out and about on decent mild evenings greeting each other warmly while we’re a sort of wave and ‘all right mate’. Traditional British stand offishness may have been a bit of an advantage this last month or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Or is it that Italians are more sociable than us? Not sure what the weather has been like in Italy lately, particularly the north, but the bloody rain we’ve had here for what seems like forever may be keeping people at home. We obviously mingle on public transport, shops & sporting events but there hasn’t been any decent evenings to get out and mix. Are we a bit less ‘touchy feely’ than Latin folk? I just picture Italian people out and about on decent mild evenings greeting each other warmly while we’re a sort of wave and ‘all right mate’. Traditional British stand offishness may have been a bit of an advantage this last month or two.
    Yes, that's a good point about the "touchy-feely" aspect. If we don't get a sudden exponential increase in cases soon, then it will be interesting to hear what the medical guys have to say about it. Not that I want to see an exponential increase, far from it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gofer Blue View Post
    Yes, that's a good point about the "touchy-feely" aspect. If we don't get a sudden exponential increase in cases soon, then it will be interesting to hear what the medical guys have to say about it. Not that I want to see an exponential increase, far from it!
    I've read a lot about Britain being something like 13 days behind Italy. All countries are going to have had similar stats to Italy at some point, so I don't necessarily buy that Britain will turn into Italy with regard the virus. It might, but it's not the guarantee that some seem to be suggesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I give up. Let's agree to disagree and hope you and your mates are right
    Obviously your reasoning is paper thin when faced with logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCFCC3PO View Post
    Obviously your reasoning is paper thin when faced with logic.
    No, just arguing with experts on the internet is pointless and I can't be arsed going round in circles, I'm never going to agree with you and you're never going to agree with me, and neither of us give a shit if the other one does or not. Too concerned about Aaron Ramsey now anyway

    https://www.football-italia.net/1510...as-coronavirus

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    No, just arguing with experts on the internet is pointless and I can't be arsed going round in circles, I'm never going to agree with you and you're never going to agree with me, and neither of us give a shit if the other one does or not. Too concerned about Aaron Ramsey now anyway

    https://www.football-italia.net/1510...as-coronavirus
    One of the Juve players has it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    One of the Juve players has it.
    That's why I said that and linked to the story

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    No, just arguing with experts on the internet is pointless and I can't be arsed going round in circles, I'm never going to agree with you and you're never going to agree with me, and neither of us give a shit if the other one does or not. Too concerned about Aaron Ramsey now anyway

    https://www.football-italia.net/1510...as-coronavirus
    Fit lads, footballers Delmi, so I wouldn’t have thought too much concern about the individual. The massive problem though is who else has he been in contact with, must be mind boggling the questioning. Can’t imagine be asked to wrack your brains to recall everyone you’ve been in contact with over the last week or so, mind boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Fit lads, footballers Delmi, so I wouldn’t have thought too much concern about the individual. The massive problem though is who else has he been in contact with, must be mind boggling the questioning. Can’t imagine be asked to wrack your brains to recall everyone you’ve been in contact with over the last week or so, mind boggling.
    I wasn't being entirely serious about Rambo

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    Quote Originally Posted by delmbox View Post
    I can't honestly in living memory remember a time when countries got quarantined, Serie A was completely stopped, US States declared states of emergency, Champions League matches were played behind closed doors and all the rest of it. And I remember bird flu, ebola and so on.

    Like I said, I'm not panicking. I'm living completely normally and will continue to do so until told otherwise but the refusal by some people to acknowledge that the steps that are being taken internationally in reaction to this outbreak mark is out as something different and potentially more worrying really confuses me
    And what will our worry achieve?

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