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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Seems pretty clear to me and a lot of other people. Anti semitism is implicit in socialism of course, but at the moment they don't seem to be bothering to hide it much.
    It's a very evil philosophy really, as we know from the millions killed by it. I'm genuinely interested how you think it might be able to work if we tried again - can you do the same thing and rationally expect a different outcome ?
    There's as many shades of socialism as capitalism and that has proven a disaster for millions upon millions whilst enriching and aggrandising a privileged few.

    As for Anti Semitism being implicit in socialism you're now showing your naivety. Anti Semitism is a condition fabricated by Jews. They have no monopoly over Semitic culture. Arabs are Semites and so are Assyrians, Aramites and other races. These people are all God's children as far as socialism is concerned. Zionism on the other hand counters the principle of fairness and equinimity which socialism holds dear.

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    There's as many shades of socialism as capitalism and that has proven a disaster for millions upon millions whilst enriching and aggrandising a privileged few.

    As for Anti Semitism being implicit in socialism you're now showing your naivety. Anti Semitism is a condition fabricated by Jews. They have no monopoly over Semitic culture. Arabs are Semites and so are Assyrians, Aramites and other races. These people are all God's children as far as socialism is concerned. Zionism on the other hand counters the principle of fairness and equinimity which socialism holds dear.
    Zionism is a broad church with worshippers of many persuasions.

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dorcus View Post
    There's as many shades of socialism as capitalism and that has proven a disaster for millions upon millions whilst enriching and aggrandising a privileged few.

    As for Anti Semitism being implicit in socialism you're now showing your naivety. Anti Semitism is a condition fabricated by Jews. They have no monopoly over Semitic culture. Arabs are Semites and so are Assyrians, Aramites and other races. These people are all God's children as far as socialism is concerned. Zionism on the other hand counters the principle of fairness and equinimity which socialism holds dear.


    Did you really just say that anti semitism is FABRICATED by Jews ?
    I don't think you meant that - hope not anyway. You went on to mention that other peoples can be described as Semitic, but of course that's got nothing to do with anything, ( you probably got that argument from George Galloway).

    Gassing millions of people can't be excused or avoided by claiming that the wrong term was used, can it ?

    In this spirit, I'm not getting into the side issue of whether the National Socialists were actually socialists , but Stalin certainly was and he probably killed more people than Hitler. Trotsky wrote some edifying stuff about all this you know, but of course he also got himself into a mess in the first place by believing in socialism .

    Some say that's it's an attractive idea but impractical in the real world, but I tend to think you'd have to be some kind of ****ing simpleton to think it could work. How many millions of people does a political theory have to murder, starve or imprison before we catch on to the fact that it's evil ?

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by RonnieBird View Post
    Did you really just say that anti semitism is FABRICATED by Jews ?
    I don't think you meant that - hope not anyway. You went on to mention that other peoples can be described as Semitic, but of course that's got nothing to do with anything, ( you probably got that argument from George Galloway).

    Gassing millions of people can't be excused or avoided by claiming that the wrong term was used, can it ?

    In this spirit, I'm not getting into the side issue of whether the National Socialists were actually socialists , but Stalin certainly was and he probably killed more people than Hitler. Trotsky wrote some edifying stuff about all this you know, but of course he also got himself into a mess in the first place by believing in socialism .

    Some say that's it's an attractive idea but impractical in the real world, but I tend to think you'd have to be some kind of ****ing simpleton to think it could work. How many millions of people does a political theory have to murder, starve or imprison before we catch on to the fact that it's evil ?
    Your wasting your breath with anti semitsim and new socialist, they are all in denial ,nothing has been said , no investigation or suspensions , the social media rants are fake news the Labour party members who complained about it are Blairites .The Jewish arm of Labour party is making it all up and they are very happy and not asked many times for apologizes .

    As Bowie famously said its hunky-dory ( דורי האני )

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Your wasting your breath with anti semitsim and new socialist, they are all in denial ,nothing has been said , no investigation or suspensions , the social media rants are fake news the Labour party members who complained about it are Blairites .The Jewish arm of Labour party is making it all up and they are very happy and not asked many times for apologizes .

    As Bowie famously said its hunky-dory ( דורי האני )
    I'm a socialist who is critical of Labour on anti Semitism and Brexit, where do I fit into your stereotyping?

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Your wasting your breath with anti semitsim and new socialist, they are all in denial ,nothing has been said , no investigation or suspensions , the social media rants are fake news the Labour party members who complained about it are Blairites .The Jewish arm of Labour party is making it all up and they are very happy and not asked many times for apologizes .

    As Bowie famously said its hunky-dory ( דורי האני )
    Who has said there is no anti-semitism amongst Labour Party members?

    On here or in the Labour Party? A single name will do - any poster or any Labour representative (from any part of the party).

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    Re: What leave voters voted for?

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Who has said there is no anti-semitism amongst Labour Party members?

    On here or in the Labour Party? A single name will do - any poster or any Labour representative (from any part of the party).
    LOM - before you post anymore drooling nonsense I would like this answered too.

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