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    Re: Wilson. An enigma.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It was mentioned plenty of times on here in recent years that the way we played meant that Premier League clubs would be reluctant to loan their better, more technical, young players to us. Harry Wilson was the player who disproved that theory, but he hasn’t made the impact here that he did at Hull and Derby and he scored more goals for Bournemouth in the Premier League than he’s done for us.
    Paul, I’m not entirely sure that that theory has been disproved. You might argue that Liverpool see no future for the likes of Wilson, Ojo or indeed Grujic as Liverpool players so their primary concern is to get them off the books and save money. If Liverpool, or any Premier League side had a player in whom they see a future would they loan him to us ? I’m not entirely sure.

  2. #2

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    I'd take a fully-fit Tomlin over Wilson every day. Fat chance of that however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
    I'd take a fully-fit Tomlin over Wilson every day. Fat chance of that however.
    I said much the same around the start of January.

    As you say though Tomlin seems content with earning his money and just kicking along doing nothing of note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enoch Mort View Post
    Paul, I’m not entirely sure that that theory has been disproved. You might argue that Liverpool see no future for the likes of Wilson, Ojo or indeed Grujic as Liverpool players so their primary concern is to get them off the books and save money. If Liverpool, or any Premier League side had a player in whom they see a future would they loan him to us ? I’m not entirely sure.
    I think they would, it depends who we are competing with of course. We are clearly not the man City of the championship but I also don't think many of our opponents are.

    If they are prepared to loan to the championship then the quality of the players is going to be lower wherever, I think one of the most valuable things a young player can get is competitive minutes on the pitch. You could even argue a season somewhere playing a different style with more physicality could even be beneficial to a players overall growth.

    Most loans I'm sure are down to nepotism.

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    Re: Wilson. An enigma.

    His season is comparable to Harvey Elliot who is being raved about for what he's producing at such a young age. Judging by most recent game, Blackburn are more natural fit for Elliot than we've been for Wilson this year.

    If we're going to remember one moment this year we should think about the first goal against Birmingham here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WCbLFoh-s

    At 0.08 seconds you can see Wilson has every right to pass defender and shoot on favoured left-foot but instead sets up Glatzel for a relatively easy chance. Context being that Moore had gone down in Jacks game before and, despite changing game for us against Stoke in preceding away game, Glatzel was still primarily a bench option and needing boost to his confidence. That is a sign of strong leadership skills by Harry.

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    I would also add that if we could attend games he would be the one player in our side you would turn up to watch, rather than watching the team as a whole

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    Re: Wilson. An enigma.

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    His season is comparable to Harvey Elliot who is being raved about for what he's producing at such a young age. Judging by most recent game, Blackburn are more natural fit for Elliot than we've been for Wilson this year.

    If we're going to remember one moment this year we should think about the first goal against Birmingham here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9WCbLFoh-s

    At 0.08 seconds you can see Wilson has every right to pass defender and shoot on favoured left-foot but instead sets up Glatzel for a relatively easy chance. Context being that Moore had gone down in Jacks game before and, despite changing game for us against Stoke in preceding away game, Glatzel was still primarily a bench option and needing boost to his confidence. That is a sign of strong leadership skills by Harry.
    Not sure he thought Glatzel needed a boost while making that pass to be fair.
    He simply passed to a player who had more space.

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