Afghanistan , what a waste

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

457 British soldiers dead , at least , since the US led invasion

Thousands left with injuries both physical and psychological

And of course afghan casualties

Its all very well wanting democracy , women's rights etc but you are wasting your time with the taliban

The UK sending in rescue troops reminds me of the American helicopters saving people from the viet cong

[dembethewarrior]

What war isn't a waste?

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

What war isn't a waste?

Well for the most part getting rid of Hitler was a good move

The way that Europe was carved up after the event wasn't so clever

[stan butler]

457 British soldiers dead , at least , since the US led invasion

Thousands left with injuries both physical and psychological

And of course afghan casualties

Its all very well wanting democracy , women's rights etc but you are wasting your time with the taliban

The UK sending in rescue troops reminds me of the American helicopters saving people from the viet cong

The Taliban are disgusting pigs. Their treatment of the afghan people is appalling the media doesn't give the real picture it's watered down for the news and so on..
No war is great but we had to do something sadly it was always going to be an ongoing conflict.

[Harry Paget Flashman]

The Taliban are disgusting pigs. Their treatment of the afghan people is appalling the media doesn't give the real picture it's watered down for the news and so on..
No war is great but we had to do something sadly it was always going to be an ongoing conflict.

To be fair we've been meddling in Afghanistan for 200 years.

[NYCBlue]

Groups like the Taliban and Isis move in massive convoys across the desert, why doesn't the Afghan/Syrian/US military use airstrikes against them?

[Taunton Blue Genie]

'The Great Game' that Russia and The West always lose.

[Jimmy the Jock]

The Taliban are disgusting pigs. Their treatment of the afghan people is appalling the media doesn't give the real picture it's watered down for the news and so on[/B]..
No war is great but we had to do something sadly it was always going to be an ongoing conflict.

I doubt that .

We will be given the media our government want us to see.

[goats]

To be fair we've been meddling in Afghanistan for 200 years.

And it’s always ended the same way, us, the Russians and the yanks all end up leaving. They know this will eventually happen then come running back out of their caves to resume their suppression. Just leave them to it…..

[stan butler]

I doubt that .

We will be given the media our government want us to see.

Seriously the media do not show the real picture of events.

[Jimmy the Jock]

And it’s always ended the same way, us, the Russians and the yanks all end up leaving. They know this will eventually happen then come running back out of their caves to resume their suppression. Just leave them to it…..

Thats the only way to end the conflict .

If the Taliban take control of the country , there will either be acceptance or a revolution against their ways.

Who is the judge to say our morals are the right ones ?
And if we are going on a moral crusade , I don't see much being done against the chinese and their treatment of the Uighurs.
Of course that has financial consequences . Finance always trumps morals.

[Der Kaiser]

Groups like the Taliban and Isis move in massive convoys across the desert, why doesn't the Afghan/Syrian/US military use airstrikes against them?

American economy thrives when the war machine is in full swing - should imagine airstrikes don't quite fill the economic requirements of a war from their end. America are overdue a war.

[stan butler]

Is it correct that Trump was the only president in years not to go to war?

[goats]

Is it correct that Trump was the only president in years not to go to war?

If you look back over the last 70 years the yanks have got involved in a crazy amount of wars, almost like they need it for their economy.

[goats]

Thats the only way to end the conflict .

If the Taliban take control of the country , there will either be acceptance or a revolution against their ways.

Who is the judge to say our morals are the right ones ?
And if we are going on a moral crusade , I don't see much being done against the chinese and their treatment of the Uighurs.
Of course that has financial consequences . Finance always trumps morals.

I guess if you are an educated women with a job in Kabul then it might be time to flee the country, unless your happy to live in the kitchen and never be seen out again…..

[Sunnysideup]

I agree with Goats
Switch off
Leave them to it !!!😶

[stan butler]

I agree with Goats
Switch off
Leave them to it !!!😶

What raping women and kids and chopping of innocent peoples limbs? Hacking off a parents head in front of their children?
The taliban need to be stopped again whilst their fire power is weak

[Sunnysideup]

Yep
Leave them to it !!
Throughout history nobody has ever beaten the Afghans in thousands of years
The biggest export is Grapes - Rugs and opioids
Feck them
Last one out please turn off the lights!!!
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[life on mars]

457 British soldiers dead , at least , since the US led invasion

Thousands left with injuries both physical and psychological

And of course afghan casualties

Its all very well wanting democracy , women's rights etc but you are wasting your time with the taliban

The UK sending in rescue troops reminds me of the American helicopters saving people from the viet cong

You could argue its a waste of time full stop for a lot of Afghans , their army is much bigger than the Taliban 180k ish , bee trained and armed, funded , supported over the last 20 years , Taliban is approx 50k diffence though they have a greater motivation and goal , where as the Afghans army /people and town have such a splintered motivation , beliefs , tribes , with so many troops they should be able to make some form of a fight as a unit ,sadly they cant come together to defeat the force they face ?

[NYCBlue]

Is it correct that Trump was the only president in years not to go to war?

No. None of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy and Dwight D. Eisenhower started wars.

Trump is responsible for the "deal" that led to this troop withdrawal though.

[Sunnysideup]

Just googled and read a piece by Isabel Debre (AP NEWS)30th April ‘21
“Counting the cost of America’s twenty year war in Afghanistan”

Full of facts
Two I picked out;
America has paid over 530 BILLION dollars just in INTEREST on the money it’s borrowed to fund the war
America has also paid over 296 BILLION dollars in medical and other care for veterans

The USA only went in after 9/11 “looking for Bin Laden and other terrorists”?

He was found ten years later in Pakistan

Bottom line
Complete waste of money 💰

[life on mars]

Just googled and read a piece by Isabel Debre (AP NEWS)30th April ‘21
“Counting the cost of America’s twenty year war in Afghanistan”

Full of facts
Two I picked out;
America has paid over 530 BILLION dollars just in INTEREST on the money it’s borrowed to fund the war
America has also paid over 296 BILLION dollars in medical and other care for veterans

The USA only went in after 9/11 “looking for Bin Laden and other terrorists”?

He was found ten years later in Pakistan

Bottom line
Complete waste of money 💰

And in current times where Covid has cost billions it was never sustainable.

Maybe Russia or China will have a go next ,its got to be some else's turn

[stan butler]

No. None of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Gerald Ford, Richard Nixon, John F. Kennedy and Dwight D. Eisenhower started wars.

Trump is responsible for the "deal" that led to this troop withdrawal though.

I didn't say started i said Didn't go to war? Any difference?

[life on mars]

I didn't say started i said Didn't go to war? Any difference?

Think Barack whacked loads of lives out via drones attack does that count ?

[lardy]

I didn't say started i said Didn't go to war? Any difference?

What is the difference?