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  1. #1

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    What is factually wrong with what I said in my post.
    Your facts are filled with deception. I'm out

  2. #2

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Your facts are filled with deception. I'm out
    Wake up and smell the coffee. We have a government currently treating us all like idiots. They instil fear everyday with talk of death rates and saving lives, yet the facts say that since mid year the overall death rates are no different this year to last and that includes Covid.
    In March they prohibited travel over 5 miles with no evidence to back up the decision. Recently that prohibited travel outside authority boundaries, no evidence to back up the decision. These travel bans affected millions.
    They have introduced the latest lockdown with frightening speed and no consultation. They said it would last two weeks, but not so sure now. They haven't told us what's to happen on 9 Nov, not me not you not any business in Wales knows. I wonder iff the Government knows?
    They are taking away our freedom and liberties at a stroke and in my 75 years in this world I have never seen the public in Wales treated with so little respect by our leaders. They tell us that intensive care beds are full, not true. They say pubs and restaurants are safe and close them all. They tell us what we can and cannot buy as if we are infants, yet people have been frightened into submission and accept it. Doctors seem to have learned a lot about how to handle this virus our leaders very little. No doubt we will have another arbitrary lockdown in a month or two.
    I like most obey the rules, and all the basics like distancing , hygiene etc, but Im against blindly accepting rules and regulations on a whim unless there is evidence to back them up.
    70,000 people have signed the petition regarding non essential goods. At last some response from the public, but sadly little response from the Government. They obviously know best, as usual.

  3. #3

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Wake up and smell the coffee. We have a government currently treating us all like idiots. They instil fear everyday with talk of death rates and saving lives, yet the facts say that since mid year the overall death rates are no different this year to last and that includes Covid.
    In March they prohibited travel over 5 miles with no evidence to back up the decision. Recently that prohibited travel outside authority boundaries, no evidence to back up the decision. These travel bans affected millions.
    They have introduced the latest lockdown with frightening speed and no consultation. They said it would last two weeks, but not so sure now. They haven't told us what's to happen on 9 Nov, not me not you not any business in Wales knows. I wonder iff the Government knows?
    They are taking away our freedom and liberties at a stroke and in my 75 years in this world I have never seen the public in Wales treated with so little respect by our leaders. They tell us that intensive care beds are full, not true. They say pubs and restaurants are safe and close them all. They tell us what we can and cannot buy as if we are infants, yet people have been frightened into submission and accept it. Doctors seem to have learned a lot about how to handle this virus our leaders very little. No doubt we will have another arbitrary lockdown in a month or two.
    I like most obey the rules, and all the basics like distancing , hygiene etc, but Im against blindly accepting rules and regulations on a whim unless there is evidence to back them up.
    70,000 people have signed the petition regarding non essential goods. At last some response from the public, but sadly little response from the Government. They obviously know best, as usual.
    The worm is beginning to turn with the WAG.....Westminster too. A very dangerous game is being played out, fear, lies, mis information, almost dictatorship.

  4. #4

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by goats View Post
    The worm is beginning to turn with the WAG.....Westminster too. A very dangerous game is being played out, fear, lies, mis information, almost dictatorship.

    Dictatorship


    Not being able to buy some cheaply made clothing for the next 12 days


    Almost identical really.

  5. #5

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Not being able to buy some cheaply made clothing for the next 12 days.
    Or go out for a drink. Or a meal. Or go to the cinema. Or meet up with a friend. Or a member of your family.

  6. #6

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Or go out for a drink. Or a meal. Or go to the cinema. Or meet up with a friend. Or a member of your family.
    Isn't that the point? The more contact people have with other people, the more the virus spreads?

  7. #7

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Isn't that the point? The more contact people have with other people, the more the virus spreads?
    Yeah, so we're told. Ad infinitum. But I was merely pointing out that there's a bit more to this lockdown than not being able to buy some cheap clothing for the next 12 days.

  8. #8

    Re: No U turn on essential goods ban

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    Wake up and smell the coffee. We have a government currently treating us all like idiots. They instil fear everyday with talk of death rates and saving lives, yet the facts say that since mid year the overall death rates are no different this year to last and that includes Covid.
    In March they prohibited travel over 5 miles with no evidence to back up the decision. Recently that prohibited travel outside authority boundaries, no evidence to back up the decision. These travel bans affected millions.
    They have introduced the latest lockdown with frightening speed and no consultation. They said it would last two weeks, but not so sure now. They haven't told us what's to happen on 9 Nov, not me not you not any business in Wales knows. I wonder iff the Government knows?
    They are taking away our freedom and liberties at a stroke and in my 75 years in this world I have never seen the public in Wales treated with so little respect by our leaders. They tell us that intensive care beds are full, not true. They say pubs and restaurants are safe and close them all. They tell us what we can and cannot buy as if we are infants, yet people have been frightened into submission and accept it. Doctors seem to have learned a lot about how to handle this virus our leaders very little. No doubt we will have another arbitrary lockdown in a month or two.
    I like most obey the rules, and all the basics like distancing , hygiene etc, but Im against blindly accepting rules and regulations on a whim unless there is evidence to back them up.
    70,000 people have signed the petition regarding non essential goods. At last some response from the public, but sadly little response from the Government. They obviously know best, as usual.
    That's the second time I've seen these claims being made on here. I searched, but couldn't find anything to back them up the first time around and, having done so again, I cannot find anything about "not sure now".

    The Welsh Government website's frequently asked questions section on this has not been updated since Saturday;-

    https://gov.wales/coronavirus-firebr...sked-questions

    and says that the lockdown will end at one minute past midnight on 9 November. Here's the answer to the question "What will happen after Monday 9 November?";-

    "Following the end of the firebreak, a new set of national rules will be introduced, covering how people can meet and how the public sector and businesses operate."

    That's a statement which allows a fair bit of wriggle room, but I see no suggestion that the current lockdown is going to be extended beyond 9 November.

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