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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Down to 4 hours? That's better than earlier - and better than tomorrow! All down to the Brexit border checks that had so little impact during Covid but are now showing their full power of disruption. Get Brexit Done!
    The UK are blaming France, France are blaming Eurostar. The only people blaming Brexit are the Japanese WW2 fighters who still haven't given up arms.

    Why do you guys insist on spreading misinformation? It's so weird. And before you say "bUt iT nEvEr hApPenD bEfoRe BrExIt!...It did, you just probably weren't paying attention.

    2012
    https://www.channel4.com/news/olympi...eathrow-queues

    2013
    https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-n...border-queues/

    2014
    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/a...s-9308640.html

    2015
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...s-until-monday

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    The UK are blaming France, France are blaming Eurostar. The only people blaming Brexit are the Japanese WW2 fighters who still haven't given up arms.

    Why do you guys insist on spreading misinformation? It's so weird.
    According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."
    They stamp the passport now. But they opened and looked at the passports anyway. I've been trough customs and borders since. It literally takes a second longer if that.

    Before or after brexit, there are still a myriad of other reasons that can cause issues; IT, transport, staff sickness, strikes, poor management, bad practices. These things happen. For people to knee-jerk blame something that happened several years and applies to all ports, all airports and eurostar, yet is clearly focused on one port route, is disingenuous.

    And before anyone says.."what about airport queues?" it's the same across the States and Europe. Again, it just wasn't reported. For people who consider themselves so pro-european, they often don't follow the news from there very much..

    https://time.com/6192903/why-air-travel-is-bad-now/

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by JamesWales View Post
    They stamp the passport now. But they opened and looked at the passports anyway. I've been trough customs and borders since. It literally takes a second longer if that.

    Before or after brexit, there are still a myriad of other reasons that can cause issues; IT, transport, staff sickness, strikes, poor management, bad practices. These things happen. For people to knee-jerk blame something that happened several years and applies to all ports, all airports and eurostar, yet is clearly focused on one port route, is disingenuous.

    And before anyone says.."what about airport queues?" it's the same across the States and Europe. Again, it just wasn't reported. For people who consider themselves so pro-european, they often don't follow the news from there very much..

    https://time.com/6192903/why-air-travel-is-bad-now/
    "Follow the news from there"

    As a matter of interest, have you actually travelled much between the UK and Europe recently?

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiss Peter View Post
    "Follow the news from there"

    As a matter of interest, have you actually travelled much between the UK and Europe recently?
    Been to spain twice. No issues.

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    According to Reuters: "Britain's departure from the European Union means passengers bound for France face enhanced checks by French officials."
    Careful. That is a prime example of what James calls misinformation.... that is any explanation of the Dover port chaos that hasn't come direct from Liz Truss or Natalie Elphicke.

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    Re: Another Brexit Bonus

    Doug Bannister, Chief Executive, Port of Dover said: "Since the UK left the EU, we are subject to full passport checks. Before, all of our freight traffic would go through in about zero seconds and now it's 60 seconds to maybe up to 90 seconds per truck. All of that adds up.

    "What we have done, as the Port of Dover, is install new infrastructure and put in new operational processes to make certain that the traffic can flow through as best as it can with the new control regimes that are in place.

    "Now, we are reliant on other players to do their part to staff the booths.

    "Well, we have had lots of good dialogue and we work well with French immigration police and they certainly have high attention on our operation down here. Ultimately, it comes down to their resourcing levels and we know resourcing around Europe and the world is tight these days.

    "The European Entry Exit System (EES), the way it's currently thought through is that it will work well in an airport, but as of now, there is no technology, no process and nothing designed for vehicular traffic in a busy ferry terminal.

    "This is something that is concerning us because if we don't get that right, everything will stop."


    https://www.itv.com/news/meridian/20...-reduce-delays

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