FT: NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[Des Parrot]

Don’t understand all of the focus on the Glatzel, where is the scathing criticism of Wilson (is he too precious to be criticised?), Murphy, Ralls, Harris, Ojo, Hoilett etc. They left Glatzel out to dry.

When Murphy got to the line, only Glatzel was in the box, no one made the effort to get in there.

No one comes out of this with credit. Lethargy and one dimensional. Time for a change.

[splott parker]

Don’t understand all of the focus on the Glatzel, where is the scathing criticism of Wilson (is he too precious to be criticised?), Murphy, Ralls, Harris, Ojo, Hoilett etc. They left Glatzel out to dry.

When Murphy got to the line, only Glatzel was in the box, no one made the effort to get in there.

No one comes out of this with credit. Lethargy and one dimensional. Time for a change.

The focus is on Glatzel, not his fault I hasten to add, because of what he cost. To say Murphy doesn’t get criticised suggests that you don’t read this board much, he’s been regularly slaughtered, Ojo has his own personal executioner, Ralls gets his fair share of pelters as well. Wilson has been getting in more and more recently as well. Hoilett is perhaps giving a little breathing space due to the fact he cost bugger all and his contribution over the seasons far outweighs any negatives, it was he with a snapshot that nearly brought us level today after coming on. Mark Harris surely doesn’t deserve criticism after being chucked in the deep end in a struggling side. Glatzel isn’t up to it at this level, perhaps it’s not that he doesn’t get stuck in, doesn’t show enthusiasm, doesn’t create anything individually etc it’s the fact he can’t do these things because he isn’t good enough. We’ve seen enough of him, he’s not up to it.

[Des Parrot]

The focus is on Glatzel, not his fault I hasten to add, because of what he cost. To say Murphy doesn’t get criticised suggests that you don’t read this board much, he’s been regularly slaughtered, Ojo has his own personal executioner, Ralls gets his fair share of pelters as well. Wilson has been getting in more and more recently as well. Hoilett is perhaps giving a little breathing space due to the fact he cost bugger all and his contribution over the seasons far outweighs any negatives, it was he with a snapshot that nearly brought us level today after coming on. Mark Harris surely doesn’t deserve criticism after being chucked in the deep end in a struggling side. Glatzel isn’t up to it at this level, perhaps it’s not that he doesn’t get stuck in, doesn’t show enthusiasm, doesn’t create anything individually etc it’s the fact he can’t do these things because he isn’t good enough. We’ve seen enough of him, he’s not up to it.

I was referring specifically to the criticism Glatzel was getting after this match. In my opinion he was hung out to dry as he had no support or feed from those around him, Ralls, Murphy, Wilson all anonymous. There was one instance when Murphy broke away, got to the bye line, crossed the ball , behind Glatzel, and there wasn’t another City player in or approaching the box, yet Forest managed to get 6 or 7 back, that sums this team up for me. The lack of incisiveness is shocking. There was also a pass from Pack in between the Forest lines, which was a great opportunity to attack, instead of carrying it forward it went sideways then back, wasting a great opportunity. Oh for a Jason Koumas!

[jeepster]

I was referring specifically to the criticism Glatzel was getting after this match. In my opinion he was hung out to dry as he had no support or feed from those around him, Ralls, Murphy, Wilson all anonymous. There was one instance when Murphy broke away, got to the bye line, crossed the ball , behind Glatzel, and there wasn’t another City player in or approaching the box, yet Forest managed to get 6 or 7 back, that sums this team up for me. The lack of incisiveness is shocking. There was also a pass from Pack in between the Forest lines, which was a great opportunity to attack, instead of carrying it forward it went sideways then back, wasting a great opportunity. Oh for a Jason Koumas!

Glatzet would be a lot better with the ball played in front of him.

[splott parker]

Glatzet would be a lot better with the ball played in front of him.

Strikers who cost as much as him should have a more all round game and be adaptable to balls played in front of them, behind them, across the box on the deck, across the box in the air, chances that they make themselves, chances that occur through defenders’ errors etc. He shows none of these attributes on a regular basis, unfortunately he’s a dud, no power, no strength, little awareness, lacking in a vital part of a striker’s make up which is anticipation. Fair play to his agent for getting his former club such a fee and his client a wage to match. I’ve tried to like him and he’s been given many opportunities to show his worth, so much more than the likes of Cornelius, Bogle and Guerra. We knock our midfield but it must be disheartening for them having such a ‘no show’ up front, he’s a centre back’s dream opponent, for a big bloke his aggression is nil.

[jeepster]

Strikers who cost as much as him should have a more all round game and be adaptable to balls played in front of them, behind them, across the box on the deck, across the box in the air, chances that they make themselves, chances that occur through defenders’ errors etc. He shows none of these attributes on a regular basis, unfortunately he’s a dud, no power, no strength, little awareness, lacking in a vital part of a striker’s make up which is anticipation. Fair play to his agent for getting his former club such a fee and his client a wage to match. I’ve tried to like him and he’s been given many opportunities to show his worth, so much more than the likes of Cornelius, Bogle and Guerra. We knock our midfield but it must be disheartening for them having such a ‘no show’ up front, he’s a centre back’s dream opponent, for a big bloke his aggression is nil.

What, we have a midfield.Must be news to the team.

[splott parker]

What, we have a midfield.Must be news to the team.

One of the reasons we need strikers who are capable of creating the odd chance themselves, strikers who work their bollocks off, strikers who bully defenders, strikers who battle, Glatzel doesn’t , he can’t hold the ball up, he can’t defend from the front, he’s powder puff. Do you think that he’s good enough?

[Cleve van Leef]

Don’t understand all of the focus on the Glatzel, where is the scathing criticism of Wilson (is he too precious to be criticised?), Murphy, Ralls, Harris, Ojo, Hoilett etc. They left Glatzel out to dry.

When Murphy got to the line, only Glatzel was in the box, no one made the effort to get in there.

No one comes out of this with credit. Lethargy and one dimensional. Time for a change.

There has to be a scapegoat and unfortunately Glatzel is that one. It seems that we don’t play to any of his strengths, surely he has some, but being in a side that lacks any quality in the attacking half of the pitch any striker would look poor. I don’t know what Warnock was looking for in a striker like him when he signed him. The mind boggles.