FT: SWANSEA CITY 2 - 0 CARDIFF CITY. Match thread

[bluebirds17]

I agree, but maybe people shouldn't bang on about him like he's some wonder kid, plenty did initially when they should have known better, especially in terms of development with young players. Nobody actually says what he does well either.

But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

[Father Dougal]

But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

I think we all know if colwill had gone to the Swansea academy and not cardiff his career may have been very different.

Sure everyone knows what I mean. Sad to say but it's true.

[Citizen's Nephew]

I think we all know if colwill had gone to the Swansea academy and not cardiff his career may have been very different.

Sure everyone knows what I mean. Sad to say but it's true.

[ZZ Jack]

Two poor teams, with our lot having the luck today. After your performance last week I feared the worse.

Thanks to your successes against the teams below us, you have helped ease our situation this season, so good luck on the run in.

[Tuerto]

Two poor teams, with our lot having the luck today. After your performance last week I feared the worse.

Thanks to your successes against the teams below us, you have helped ease our situation this season, so good luck on the run in.

Congrats on the win mate

[Michael Morris]

Two poor teams, with our lot having the luck today. After your performance last week I feared the worse.

Thanks to your successes against the teams below us, you have helped ease our situation this season, so good luck on the run in.

All credit to Swansea today. Made us look poor in all departments.

Looks like we will do it all again next season.

[Mr Soul '68]

Two poor teams, with our lot having the luck today. After your performance last week I feared the worse.

Thanks to your successes against the teams below us, you have helped ease our situation this season, so good luck on the run in.

Your manager had us sussed and knew if you attacked us from the off, we'd be on the back foot until the 2nd half, usually until about the 70th minute, when Bulut actually decides to unleash some players with attacking flair. Luke Williams: had us well read today.

[Tuerto]

But no one is saying he's a wonder kid. We are all just saying he's the best academy player we've produced since Ramsey (which isn't exactly hard) and has clearly shown he has the ability to play at this level and above the current crop of players.

I just want to see our academy players given a go, otherwise what is the point of having an academy. Why are we so content with not given them a chance and then dragging them down when they don't light up a game. I've seen more ferocity against him than other players in our team. Why? Because he's one of our own and some fans see something in him?

I don't see the same from Swansea? They seem to be happy to see Cullen and Cooper a go. And no offence but I personally think Colwill is a better player than them.

Players won't develop if they aren't given the chance.

Fine mate, no problem with any of that, although i don't rate him as highly as you do. I think that his game is flawed in terms of mobility, intelligence etc. And he needs those attributes at this level unless his creative play starts to really make the difference, which it doesn't. He's getting on for 100 appearances, yet we'll have the old guard on here making excuses. It's the manager, it's the players around him, we've heard it all before.

He does have ability, but due to the nature of his style and position he has to make the difference from time to time. He hardly ever does, and comparing him to other players in order to build a case for him in an absolute cop out, it means nothing. Colwill really needs to show up more if he's ever going to progress, That's the nature of football. He's a creative player, he's supposed to make things happen and pull the odd thing out of the bag. I wish him well, and if he's as good as plenty seem to think then we will recieve some good offers for him during the summer... As for the rest of them, absolute joke today.

[Father Dougal]

Fine mate, no problem with any of that, although i don't rate him as highly as you do. I think that his game is flawed in terms of mobility, intelligence etc. And he needs those attributes at this level unless his creative play starts to really make the difference, which it doesn't. He's getting on for 100 appearances, yet we'll have the old guard on here making excuses. It's the manager, it's the players around him, we've heard it all before.

He does have ability, but due to the nature of his style and position he has to make the difference from time to time. He hardly ever does, and comparing him to other players in order to build a case for him in an absolute cop out, it means nothing. Colwill really needs to show up more if he's ever going to progress, That's the nature of football. He's a creative player, he's supposed to make things happen and pull the odd thing out of the bag. I wish him well, and if he's as good as plenty seem to think then we will recieve some good offers for him during the summer... As for the rest of them, absolute joke today.

It's astonishing and such a shame he's never gone on loan anywhere. Belgium. Scotland. League 1. Anywhere. Would be fascinating how he did somewhere else and it could go either way. He could absolutely excel and smash it or could not get a game. Neither would surprise me.

[Tuerto]

It's astonishing and such a shame he's never gone on loan anywhere. Belgium. Scotland. League 1. Anywhere. Would be fascinating how he did somewhere else and it could go either way. He could absolutely excel and smash it or could not get a game. Neither would surprise me.

Maybe. The way i look at it is more simplistic. He's playing already, and at a very good level. He's getting his chance, it's happening right now, and he's on for 100 league appearances. It really is up to him to show his ability and consistency, there will always be excuses i suppose, but that's probably the case for all footballers, all industries where we see top end performers. You may well be right about a loan, it's a fair point.

[Father Dougal]

Maybe. The way i look at it is more simplistic. He's playing already, and at a very good level. He's getting his chance, it's happening right now, and he's on for 100 league appearances. It really is up to him to show his ability and consistency, there will always be excuses i suppose, but that's probably the case for all footballers, all industries where we see top end performers. You may well be right about a loan, it's a fair point.

Mainly because as he's "one of our own" as this thread shows we can't discuss him objectively as a fan group. Some will defend him whatever he does. Others treat him harsher as sometimes happen to our own. It's just not objective.

I'd be fascinated to hear what fans of say Derby County or Charlton etc thought of him if they had him for a few months as they wouldn't have that baggage.

It wouldn't surprise me if he thrived and they thought wow what a player we have got here imagine if we can keep him- or if they thought yeah some nice touches but doesn't offer enough for what we need.