Outrage as stunning My City My Shirt mural is painted over

[logic]

Article says its owned by mischiefs bar that let the artist use it, that deal came to an end.

Dont see too much of an issue.

Logic would indicate, based upon your information that it's very much a nothing issue and that those displaying faux indignation are merely virtue signallnig.

[City123]

Logic would indicate, based upon your information that it's very much a nothing issue and that those displaying faux indignation are merely virtue signallnig.

Or perhaps people would prefer a mural representing the city over an advert for a fast food chain

It's hardly like Cardiff is overflowing with murals, does everything have to be commercial?

[logic]

Or perhaps people would prefer a mural representing the city over an advert for a fast food chain

It's hardly like Cardiff is overflowing with murals, does everything have to be commercial?

Logic shows that people are acting as if it's an OUTRAGE. How dare a multicultural mural be pointed over?

Those same people are conveniently quiet that the general makeup of the crowd at CCS is pale, male and stale.

Does everything have to be commercial? No. Does the owner of the wall have the freedom to choose what they utilise the wall for or do they have to gain the approval of the vocal minority?

[City123]

Logic shows that people are acting as if it's an OUTRAGE. How dare a multicultural mural be pointed over?

Those same people are conveniently quiet that the general makeup of the crowd at CCS is pale, male and stale.

Does everything have to be commercial? No. Does the owner of the wall have the freedom to choose what they utilise the wall for or do they have to gain the approval of the vocal minority?

There was a fair bit of annoyance on here when the club refused to back the project and there have been a number of discussions regarding the crowd not being particularly representative of the city. A number of people from here also complained directly to the club when they refused to back the project.

Of course the owner can do what they like, that was more of a general whinge at the state of the city

[Citizen's Nephew]

There was a fair bit of annoyance on here when the club refused to back the project and there have been a number of discussions regarding the crowd not being particularly representative of the city. A number of people from here also complained directly to the club when they refused to back the project.

Of course the owner can do what they like, that was more of a general whinge at the state of the city

You're absolutely right. I lived around the corner from it at the time and met Yousef and chatted to him about it. There were a lot of posters around Cardiff but this was the only mural. The club missed an opportunity at the time and in my view missed an opportunity when it was vandalised to put things right.

I don't like knocking the club but we're really good at scoring own goals on and off the pitch. The owner can do what he likes, but there's something wrong with our city when we don't celebrate street art of this quality. So many cities around the world would feature this in their portfolios but in Cardiff it gets painted out and for what, a McDonalds ad. F*ck me I despair and I don't mind admitting this kind of thing really gets me down. It hurts.

[Canton Kev]

Logic shows that people are acting as if it's an OUTRAGE. How dare a multicultural mural be pointed over?

Those same people are conveniently quiet that the general makeup of the crowd at CCS is pale, male and stale.

Does everything have to be commercial? No. Does the owner of the wall have the freedom to choose what they utilise the wall for or do they have to gain the approval of the vocal minority?

Literally no one is this thread has mentioned their outrage because it’s a multicultural mural. We’re on a Cardiff City forum and it’s a Cardiff City mural. If the bar decided to have a white man in a Swansea shirt painted do you think people would be against it due to the ethnicity or the shirt he’s wearing?

[ccfcbluebird]

Breaking... McDonalds order mural to be repainted

https://nation.cymru/culture/mcdonal...er-row-erupts/

[Citizen's Nephew]

Breaking... McDonalds order mural to be repainted

https://nation.cymru/culture/mcdonal...er-row-erupts/

I'd forgotten to mention the Wales shirt series too: My Cymru My Shirt. I hope that one can stay. It's another brilliant piece.

[Citizen's Nephew]

So to summarise:

McDonald's = Good

My City My Shirt = Political hot potato (scary if that's the case)

Corporate advertising space instead of permanent local art celebrating our club = Good

Posters from within the area fighting for something good in their community = Bad, pointless, a waste of time.

Posters from outside of the area deciding there's nothing to see here (ironic) = Good

Thanks, guys. Love the support.

[lisvaneblue]

So to summarise:

McDonald's = Good

My City My Shirt = Political hot potato (scary if that's the case)

Corporate advertising space instead of permanent local art celebrating our club = Good

Posters from within the area fighting for something good in their community = Bad, pointless, a waste of time.

Posters from outside of the area deciding there's nothing to see here (ironic) = Good

Thanks, guys. Love the support.

OK..let's say we/CCFC etc want it there permanently. Already stated by Mischief restaurant that they have let the space to an advertising agency for 5 years. So we want it for the full 5 years for starters for example.

Large billboard type adverts cost to rent from £200 a week + VAT...say £10K a year. 5 year deal £50K. If we want to buy the space..and Mischief willing to sell..probably cost a lot more.
Is that good use of money or are there other things that it could be spent on locally to help the community?

[Baloo]

OK..let's say we/CCFC etc want it there permanently. Already stated by Mischief restaurant that they have let the space to an advertising agency for 5 years. So we want it for the full 5 years for starters for example.

Large billboard type adverts cost to rent from £200 a week + VAT...say £10K a year. 5 year deal £50K. If we want to buy the space..and Mischief willing to sell..probably cost a lot more.
Is that good use of money or are there other things that it could be spent on locally to help the community?

Do you think it's still worth that? Given the backlash to what's happened here if the mural goes up again I would have thought most brands would want to steer well clear now of being associated with painting over it again.

[MacAdder]

Hey Banksy, blank canvas over the bay
Go sort it out!

[lisvaneblue]

So to summarise:

McDonald's = Good

My City My Shirt = Political hot potato (scary if that's the case)

Corporate advertising space instead of permanent local art celebrating our club = Good

Posters from within the area fighting for something good in their community = Bad, pointless, a waste of time.

Posters from outside of the area deciding there's nothing to see here (ironic) = Good

Thanks, guys. Love the support.

The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

[Tito Fuente]

The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

It appears as though you've got pretty much all of your facts/assumptions wrong:

https://www.itv.com/news/wales/2021-...ring-the-euros

[Citizen's Nephew]

The story so far..to the best of my knowledge...

'Mischiefs' restaurant sublet one outer wall of their business to an advertising agency. Yusuf Ismail, strikes a deal with Adidas for the mural to be done by Cardiff street artist Bradley Rmer and pay for the 'billboard' fees for 6 months.
The word 'Unify' appears on the mural and the typeface used is the same as used by the global marketing company Unify Creatives who promote the creative industry. Maybe Yusuf works for Unify, I cant confirm that.
Adidas more recently also sponsor a Wales football mural in central Cardiff again featuring the Unify logo.

Yusuf ,in todays Echo, has a go at Macs for allowing the mural to be painted over and further trashes Cardiff for allowing it to happen.."It's just appalling. That mural means so much to the local; community and for me it showed Cardiff in a new light coming out of the pandemic and on the back of the BLM movement..".
Further he says we've worked in BRISTOL, MANCHESTER, BIRMINGHAM, GLASGOW, LEICESTER, and this wouldn't have been allowed ....but companies know they can get away with it in Cardiff.

To me they are more the comments of someone very involved in the commercial world rather than just the interests of my home city Cardiff and its people.

Why does any of this bother you so much? So local street artists are commissioned in other cities. I'm really unclear as to what your point is and I think you are too. Surely you can't be suggesting artists should work for free? There's hardly a comparison to a global burger chain and Unify is there? It's a f*cking wall in Butetown. Again, why does this rattle you because it clearly does? What am I missing? I'm not looking for an argument. I just don't get why you and some others are so concerned about this as you clearly don't care what's put up there. Betfair will be next. Or Paddy Power.

I've spent a decade filming and photographing and recording that entire area and The Bay. Nobody gave a sh*t about it until now. I and many others found the mural uplifting. It was unique. Shouldn't that be celebrated and preserved instead of painted over for another burger ad? Isn't it strange how different we see things? I see this as an act of wanton vandalism and you shrug it off like it's f*ck all. Yet people got so worked up about the toppling of a statue recently. Makes no sense to me.

[Rjk]

Logic shows that people are acting as if it's an OUTRAGE. How dare a multicultural mural be pointed over?

Those same people are conveniently quiet that the general makeup of the crowd at CCS is pale, male and stale.

Does everything have to be commercial? No. Does the owner of the wall have the freedom to choose what they utilise the wall for or do they have to gain the approval of the vocal minority?

the Cardiff fanbase (and indeed catchment area) are a high percentage white male and middle-aged, the face that this mural was so popular and there has been outrage at it being removed says a lot about the desire to be seen as being welcoming to other groups of people in the fanbase.

could it be thought of as virtue signalling? possibly yes, but that's isn't a bad thing. inclusivity is a virtue, and the only way to achieve it is to send clear signals.