Racists

[Hilts]

Seems she was from an ordinary family who ran a newsagent business. She went to a standard secondary modern school in Watford, then Keele University. Not from a privilaged public school background or Oxbridge.

I think your judgement of her is coloured by the fact that she is a Tory.

Or perhaps your judgement is clouded as shes a Tory?

[Rjk]

As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??

do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?

[lisvaneblue]

do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?

Many Jews seem to think so, and his reluctance to condemn anti-semitism would indicate that he is.

[Hilts]

do you actually believe Corbyn is racist?

Standard defence but but but Jeremy Corbyn.

[Rjk]

I didn't defend her. As I said Im not that fond of her. I just pointed to Dorcus that she had a very normal upbringing and is not one of the privileged few. So his conclusion on what a horrible racist women he thinks she us is probably tainted because she also happens to be a Tory.

Stones and glass houses come to mind.

what do you think about her turning up to a raid on illegal immigrants home with police wearing a "home secretary" jacket, using people's misfortune as a photo opportunity? beaming with delight as someone is dragged away. is that behaviour becoming of one of the great offices of state? I can't imagine any of the previous incumbents doing that sort of thing.

[lisvaneblue]

Or perhaps your judgement is clouded as shes a Tory?

I was just stating facts...an ordinary upbringing in an ordinary family.

[Rjk]

Many Jews seem to think so, and his reluctance to condemn anti-semitism would indicate that he is.

many other Jews don't think so too. and he's said "antisemitism is vile and wrong" that seems fairly straightforward to me.

[Dorcus]

As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??

Jeremy is the salt of the Earth: there's not an ounce of racism in his body.

[Dorcus]

Was her family wealthy before they came to this country?

I don't know: is it relevant? They certainly were afterwards.

[lisvaneblue]

many other Jews don't think so too. and he's said "antisemitism is vile and wrong" that seems fairly straightforward to me.

with about as much conviction as me saying that I love Swansea FC.

It left a big stain on the Labour Party's credibility

[Hilts]

with about as much conviction as me saying that I love Swansea FC

I think your judgement is clouded as hes Labour.

[Dorcus]

Seems she was from an ordinary family who ran a newsagent business. She went to a standard secondary modern school in Watford, then Keele University. Not from a privilaged public school background or Oxbridge.

I think your judgement of her is coloured by the fact that she is a Tory.

You've just said it yourself: her family ran a Newspaper business! Very privaleged in my book! It's not as though she was born into a family of shop workers. Compare that to the millions of Asian people living in squalor who are not fortunate to live and work in Britain.

[Dorcus]

I didn't defend her. As I said Im not that fond of her. I just pointed to Dorcus that she had a very normal upbringing and is not one of the privileged few. So his conclusion on what a horrible racist women he thinks she us is probably tainted because she also happens to be a Tory.

Stones and glass houses come to mind.

I never said she was a racist. I portrayed her as a self serving turncoat.

[lisvaneblue]

You've just said it yourself: her family ran a Newspaper business! Very privaleged in my book! It's not as though she was born into a family of shop workers. Compare that to the millions of Asian people living in squalor who are not fortunate to live and work in Britain.

Yes she was born into a family of shop workers....they ran a newsagents.

[lisvaneblue]

I think your judgement is clouded as hes Labour.

And the last time the party was in Government so was I.

[Dorcus]

Yes she was born into a family of shop workers....they ran a newsagents.

Ha ha that's a good one Lisvane, I like you better when you joke. My great aunt lived in a country mansion; she was a scullery maid!

[Dorcus]

And the last time the party was in Government so was I.

And the last time (New) Labour were in government they were Red Tories and sold their soul.

[Hilts]

And the last time (New) Labour were in government they were Red Tories and sold their soul.

New Labour are extreme left wing compared to this lot.

[Dorcus]

New Labour are extreme left wing compared to this lot.

Mussolini and Franco were extreme left wing compared to this evil lot.

[NYCBlue]

People can say what they want.

Hate speech is a crime in this country.

[Feedback]

I think we were hoodwinked about Columbus....

Erik Bloodaxe has entered the chat

[Feedback]

many other Jews don't think so too. and he's said "antisemitism is vile and wrong" that seems fairly straightforward to me.

So who do we believe? The Jews who say corbyn is racist, or the Jews who say he isn't? Should we dismiss the views of those who feel he is racist because someone somewhere counters their position?

In this very thread we've had some say Patel is racist, and some say she isn't.

Weird how opinions differ.

[Rjk]

So who do we believe? The Jews who say corbyn is racist, or the Jews who say he isn't? Should we dismiss the views of those who feel he is racist because someone somewhere counters their position?

In this very thread we've had some say Patel is racist, and some say she isn't.

Weird how opinions differ.

do you think Corbyn is racist?
I'm not convinced Patel is on a personal level, but I think she's a despicable person, who is happy to pander to racists if she thinks it suits her

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

As bad as Jeremy Corbyn??

He's no fan of the zionist activities of Israel thats for sure .......she is

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Many Jews seem to think so, and his reluctance to condemn anti-semitism would indicate that he is.

if he was racist he would dislike Jews and arabs

As they are the same race in the middle east

Or at least were until the west created Israel and ethnically cleansed the Palestinians from their own land

I don't think objecting to that is the action of a racist

I don't like corbyn but I don't think he's a racist

I think she is though , saying openly it was OK to boo the knee .....thats clearly taking sides with the goon squad