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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    And the post you refer to stemmed from comments on this board that UK Gov was running the show via the Covid Act and finances linked to it.

    We both agree that the responsibility for healthcare in Wales is devolved to the Senedd who can do what they want when they want in the interest of the health of the population of Wales
    They were not in agreement and certainly not in agreement over the timings of introducing measures, you clearly have that wrong.

    As regards health being devolved it's crumbs off the table, the English don't pay for their old people that come here putting a strain on our services, calculations assume a head is a head is a head but that is not the case as some people are young and health and will often not need the health service at that stage but old people are more likely to need the health service and then there is the expense of providing rural services which needs to be taken into account, just a head count is not good enough.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    They were not in agreement and certainly not in agreement over the timings of introducing measures, you clearly have that wrong.

    As regards health being devolved it's crumbs off the table, the English don't pay for their old people that come here putting a strain on our services, calculations assume a head is a head is a head but that is not the case as some people are young and health and will often not need the health service at that stage but old people are more likely to need the health service and then there is the expense of providing rural services which needs to be taken into account, just a head count is not good enough.
    When the lockdown was introduced on 23 March it was UK wide, which is why I said that all parties must have agreed to it. The messages were simple....Stay at home except for ....shopping for essentials etc etc. After that initial blanket directive tweaks and differences occurred through each of the home countries as you said.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by lisvaneblue View Post
    When the lockdown was introduced on 23 March it was UK wide, which is why I said that all parties must have agreed to it. The messages were simple....Stay at home except for ....shopping for essentials etc etc. After that initial blanket directive tweaks and differences occurred through each of the home countries as you said.
    The UK Govt were too slow to act.

    They introduced COVID19 legislation on the 10th February but we never went into lockdown for over a month after that. If that had acted sooner many lives would have been saved.

    As for the Public Health Act 1984 there's a few issues with that:

    1. It doesn't apply in Scotland and NI.
    2. It acts as a vehicle for the Sec of State to make regulations such as those passed this year to halt the Coronavirus outbreak. It alone does not provide powers for authorities to do what they've done since the regulations were passed in March.

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    Re: UK Covid-19 death figures

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    The UK Govt were too slow to act.

    They introduced COVID19 legislation on the 10th February but we never went into lockdown for over a month after that. If that had acted sooner many lives would have been saved.

    As for the Public Health Act 1984 there's a few issues with that:

    1. It doesn't apply in Scotland and NI.
    2. It acts as a vehicle for the Sec of State to make regulations such as those passed this year to halt the Coronavirus outbreak. It alone does not provide powers for authorities to do what they've done since the regulations were passed in March.
    Covid Act 2020 became law 25 March

    Public Health 1984 act applied Wales and England, so Wales could use it any time. Other home countries accomodated by the Covid Act. Its an act in its own right, and a powerful at that.

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