Coronavirus update - NO MORE RESTRICTIONS

[Wales-Bales]

But there is a good chance people who aren't showing symptoms have the virus and are contangeous though, you're going to end up with loads more ill and loads more needing to use the ICU in that case.

Italy and Spain isolated anyone showing symptoms initially and it didn't do any good there, why would it work here?

Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

[tell it like it is]

Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

Foxy women in skimpy leather outfits? Can handle that...

[cyril evans awaydays]

Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

The research pamphlet by Fauci you posted was dated 28th February 2020. Seems he has just come out in the way that Philip Schofield has just come out!

The bit that you don't seem to or want to understand from the research article was that the 0.1% will not reached naturally, rather by all the draconian measures currently in place across the globe.

[Wales-Bales]

The research pamphlet by Fauci you posted was dated 28th February 2020.

That would explain Trump's carefully considered view about opening up the US for business again. What a position to be in, either he will go down in history as being one of the greatest presidents ever for saving America, or he will be remembered as the mad fool who destroyed America.

[the other bob wilson]

That would explain Trump's carefully considered view about opening up the US for business again. What a position to be in, either he will go down in history as being one of the greatest presidents ever for saving America, or he will be remembered as the mad fool who destroyed America.

Today's UK deaths figure makes that tweet you post looked way overoptimistic.

[Wales-Bales]

Today's UK deaths figure makes that tweet you post looked way overoptimistic.

We are depending on those people to be right, so let's just hope that they are

[the other bob wilson]

We are depending on those people to be right, so let's just hope that they are

Agreed, but it's going to depend on how well observed the lockdown and social isolation are - here's the post I made few days back which I think shows how both very high and very low estimates could be proved completely wrong;-

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...very-effective

[tell it like it is]

Agreed, but it's going to depend on how well observed the lockdown and social isolation are - here's the post I made few days back which I think shows how both very high and very low estimates could be proved completely wrong;-

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...very-effective

Even that image is a gross simplification. It implies people only have one potential source of infection. The way that's presented, a 1 to 1 relationship means that knocking one "source" out ( by isolating ) prevents others along that source tree further down the line getting it. It's nowhere near as simple as that.

[tell it like it is]

Agreed, but it's going to depend on how well observed the lockdown and social isolation are - here's the post I made few days back which I think shows how both very high and very low estimates could be proved completely wrong;-

http://www.ccmb.co.uk/showthread.php...very-effective

Even that image is a gross simplification. It implies people only have one potential source of infection. The way that's presented, a 1 to 1 relationship means that knocking one "source" out ( by isolating ) prevents others along that source tree further down the line getting it. It's nowhere near as simple as that.

[cyril evans awaydays]

That would explain Trump's carefully considered view about opening up the US for business again. What a position to be in, either he will go down in history as being one of the greatest presidents ever for saving America, or he will be remembered as the mad fool who destroyed America.

Another one of your stupid either/ors. My money is firmly in the latter spectrum.

What do you think or are you too busy self-isolating on a fence to have anything firmer than a nudge nudge wink wink as usual?

[Wales-Bales]

Another one of your stupid either/ors. My money is firmly in the latter spectrum.

What do you think or are you too busy self-isolating on a fence to have anything firmer than a nudge nudge wink wink as usual?

It's a good thing that he has based his thoughts on the latest available evidence. Regarding how he comes out of it, surely it's in the lap of the gods, isn't it? It's a bold move, so naturally the consequences will be heightened either way.

[cyril evans awaydays]

It's a good thing that he has based his thoughts on the latest available evidence. Regarding how he comes out of it, surely it's in the lap of the gods, isn't it? It's a bold move, so naturally the consequences will be heightened either way.

What's the latest available evidence? A speculative article from a month ago rather than the data from the last month? Even for you this is a leap of faith. Are you still in mourning that your sacred Conservative Treehouse Website was blocked from Twitter for calling CoronaVirus a hoax or something?

[Wales-Bales]

What's the latest available evidence? A speculative article from a month ago rather than the data from the last month?

This is actually good news that the White House have had this data since at least the 28 February, and they have been using it for their forward planning. The public only found out about it yesterday, but what Dr Birx said last night seems to back up the observation that the old data models were wrong. At least we now know that Trump made his decision to reopen America with the help of scientific opinion, and not on a whim.

[cyril evans awaydays]

Dr Anthony Fauci has just come out and said the fatality rate of the Corona virus could be 0.1%, which is the same as pandemic flu. Would that be cause to shut down the entire global economic system? Furthermore, this research is ongoing, so it's not going to be a random decision that will get everybody back to work. The alternative option of doing nothing is fraught with danger, unless you are ok with the idea of the world descending into a Mad Max scenario.

Looks like Trump has tacked back to health being a more immediate priority than wealth so I guess it's time for you to adapt your rhetoric to stay in step.

Last night, when he wasn't blaming New York health workers for the wholesale theft of tens of thousands of protective equipment, Trump gave two figures.

He said that the deaths of 100k Americans due to this virus would be a "good result" and that an additional 2.2 million Americans would have died if the country did not take the measures that it has. You (well most people) may take what Trump utters with a pinch of salt but it does at least spell out the health/wealth dilemma in terms where you might grasp when people are talking about its impact pre or post intervention and give all this flu comparisons the break it deserves!

https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...through-end-of