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[The Hooded Claw]

The British economy is realigning following Brexit. There will be good changes and bad but some disruption is inevitable

Care to provide an example of those “good changes”?

[JamesWales]

Care to provide an example of those “good changes”?

In the coming years, I would anticipate:
Rising wages
Greater housing affordability
Greater infiltration and engagement with faster growing global economies
GDP to rise slightly faster than typical in the previous years
Lower unemployment than in the last 10-20 years
Greater emphasis on manufacturing
A more dynamic R&D sector
Greater investment in public services.
A more interventionist form of economic management
A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt
Greater investments in workplace training, apprenticeships etc

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

[az city]

In the coming years, I would anticipate:
Rising wages
Greater housing affordability
Greater infiltration and engagement with faster growing global economies
GDP to rise slightly faster than typical in the previous years
Lower unemployment than in the last 10-20 years
Greater emphasis on manufacturing
A more dynamic R&D sector
Greater investment in public services.
A more interventionist form of economic management
A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt
Greater investments in workplace training, apprenticeships etc

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

Laughable. Most, if not all of that, is complete tripe.

It's complete conjecture from you. What expertise are you drawing upon to spout such utter rubbish?

[JamesWales]

Laughable. Most, if not all of that, is complete tripe.

It's complete conjecture from you. What expertise are you drawing upon to spout such utter rubbish?

They are predictions about the future, completely unprovable either way, until say 2024, 2025. but that is what I think will happen based on my knowledge of current affairs and economics.

What evidence do you have that advanced western nations such as the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, Japan etc do worse economically than Italy, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, France etc? The evidence doesn't exist.

[az city]

They are predictions about the future, completely unprovable either way, until say 2024, 2025. but that is what I think will happen based on my knowledge of current affairs and economics.

What evidence do you have that advanced western nations such as the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Switzerland, Iceland, Norway, Japan etc do worse economically than Italy, Germany, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, France etc? The evidence doesn't exist.

So, to summarize:

1. it's complete conjecture on your part;
2. you have absolutely zero expertise in the area.

Utter BS from you.

[JamesWales]

So, to summarize:

1. it's complete conjecture on your part;
2. you have absolutely zero expertise in the area.

Utter BS from you.

I have an MSc in an economics related topic.

Tell me where I am wrong.

[az city]

I have an MSc in an economics related topic.

Tell me where I am wrong.

What's an "Economics-related topic"? And from where? I smell more BS.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

What club do they all belong to? I wasn't aware that those countries have formed an alliance similar to the EU.

[ninian opinian]

In the coming years, I would anticipate:
Rising wages
Greater housing affordability
Greater infiltration and engagement with faster growing global economies
GDP to rise slightly faster than typical in the previous years
Lower unemployment than in the last 10-20 years
Greater emphasis on manufacturing
A more dynamic R&D sector
Greater investment in public services.
A more interventionist form of economic management
A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt
Greater investments in workplace training, apprenticeships etc

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

[JamesWales]

Another one. But no sunstantive response.

The reality is advanced nations outside the EU have generally higher growth, generally lower unemployment, are free to create bilateral trade deals with faster growing developing countries, are free to intervene in their economies and offer state support more, will be less reliant on free movement of labour and thus more likely to train up apprenticeships etc.

Compare equivalent countries inside and outside the EU, and I'm sorry, it doesnt paint a picture that says membership of the EU is necessary for economic success at all.

[the other bob wilson]

In the coming years, I would anticipate:
Rising wages
Greater housing affordability
Greater infiltration and engagement with faster growing global economies
GDP to rise slightly faster than typical in the previous years
Lower unemployment than in the last 10-20 years
Greater emphasis on manufacturing
A more dynamic R&D sector
Greater investment in public services.
A more interventionist form of economic management
A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt
Greater investments in workplace training, apprenticeships etc

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

You’re asking people to point out what they think is wrong about the above, my reply would be the bit that starts with “In the coming years I would anticipate” and ends with “the economy will be fairer and more balanced” - sorry, I couldn’t resist that.

I’m old enough to remember what life used to be like before we joined the Common Market as it was called then. I was too young really to have much coherent political knowledge, but I can remember thinking that it didn’t seem too different in the Common Market from what life was like out of it. Because of this, I was less bothered about the Referendum than most and figured the outcome wouldn’t make a great deal on difference either way. I’m less sure of that now andI must say that I can’t remember a time when so many of the important goods, services and items we’re very reliant on have faced problems like the ones we’ve seen in the last month or so - it would seem a huge coincidence for none of it at all to be Brexit related.

As for your views, your attitude looks to be one of “prove my guesses are wrong with facts” - that seems a bit unfair to me towards people who, like you, are making guesses. Brexit arouses so many strong emotions and I bet the huge majority of people are still just favouring the side they voted for - we’re all just guessing though.

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A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt

This means absolutely nothing, total PR guff

[Swiss Peter]

In the coming years, I would anticipate:
Rising wages
Greater housing affordability
Greater infiltration and engagement with faster growing global economies
GDP to rise slightly faster than typical in the previous years
Lower unemployment than in the last 10-20 years
Greater emphasis on manufacturing
A more dynamic R&D sector
Greater investment in public services.
A more interventionist form of economic management
A more dynamic, agile and faster moving govt
Greater investments in workplace training, apprenticeships etc

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

Wow - that's a wonderful wishlist. 'Sunlit uplands' indeed.

Doesn't answer the question you were asked though. Also, with the right governance and policies we could have had most of those things AND the huge benefits of EU membership and trade.

[Swiss Peter]

Ultimately we have left a club that contains Germany, France, Spain, Italy et al and joined one that contains South Korea, Japan, USA, Canada, New Zealand, Switzerland et al.

In or out of the EU will make far less positive or negative impact than people think, as the foundations of a strong economy are rooted in other issues, but on balance I think Britain will do better and I do think society and the economy will be fairer and more balanced.

You do realise that the Swiss people voted to effectively stay in the single market?