though expectedOriginally Posted by life on mars
made a mistake, apologised for it, would have been end of the story years ago, but not these days for a certain section of society
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Nonsense. He was 18 years old and he said some vile things in the public domain. He's representing his country and is now very high profile. What do you expect the ECB should do, just say that he was a daft young adult and that it's all ok now? He surely has to answer to what he said, explain himself and show that he doesn't think like that anymore. If someone of the same age in employment, higher education etc used those words, then they would be up the road, and rightly so. This bloke isn't being singled out, he's being treated the same way any of us would in our job if we used language like that.though expected
I hope that it's all sorted out, that he understands what he did, explains himself and resumes his career, nobody should have to pay forever, that's ridiculous and a huge waste, nobody wins in my opinion. Stop apologising for piss poor behaviour, or maybe behaviour that doesn't particularly bother you.
During the really bad weeks and months of lockdown we had "celebrities" queuing up to apologise for breaking the rules. Occasionally they'd do it more than once - Rita Ora for example - merely apologising for breaking rules or making offensive comments is not always enough.
These days, people who feel it is inexcusable to make the sort of comments Ollie Robinson did are made out to be the villains of the piece because they are considered "woke" - what sort of bizzaro world are we living in where it's the people who find inexcusable comments offensive who are put on the defensive?
Ollie Robinson is an impressive cricketer and I admire the way he has reacted on the pitch under pressure since the news of the tweets he made broke. He will be back for England I'm sure, but, to use the catchall term, he has been guilty of bringing the game into disrepute and should be punished - offering an apology eight or nine years after the event only after what he did has come to light is no defence and if people just thought about that, rather than rushing to make political points , they would see things more clearly,
The thing is, it's all white people who think it's ok for an apology like the one he has given, a bit like apologising to your sister 20 years on, because it was really you who broke her record player! Not a chance. The problem is that plain old sorry just aint enough. He needs to show that he isn't a racist, he has to do something physical, get involved etc, that's the same for all of us. No doubt i'll have the usual wankers on my case, trotting out the usual cliched, apologist crap.
To add... Imagine if this had been a young British Pakistani playing for England, And what came to light was him encouraging Terrorism, Hatred towards jews etc. on the old Twitter. I wonder how that would go down? Ahh, it's nothing, he was a kid' The P.C brigade are winning...
If anyone was found to be encouraging terrorism I'd hope they'd get a knock from the police.
Nice swerve.
Ive already said " He was a 18 year old acting the knob on social media " its a few posts up
As soon as the tweets came to light he apologised, now you might say " Yea but he had to try and save his career " yes he did, but I am unsure of anything else he could have done to put it right
He could have easily met with the ECB and explained his actions and said " I apologise for being a knob head at 18 " at anytime, does being pulled from the 2nd test ( and maybe more ) make people feel he is being punished for the crime ? ? ? how long should he be banned for ? ? ? 1 years, 2 years, 5 years ? ? ? what is the correct punishment for being a knobhead posting racist / sexist / unacceptable posts, we will all have different opinions on what the punishment should be, from the " he has apologised and cannot do anything more than that " to the " never pick him for international cricket again ", the big question is where is that line ?
As youngsters, people make mistakes, its lifes learning curve, if you have never made mistakes and made poor errors in judgement you are a lucky person , now at his age i wasnt making racist / sexist remarks because that wasnt in my nature, but i sure as hell did things that i wouldnt do now
for the record I am not apologising for piss poor behaviour, and his behaviour was obviously wrong and unacceptable, Ive said he was " acting the knob on social media " but I am not sure what more he can do going forward other than apologise for his tweets ( which he did straight away )
The ECB had no choice here as they operate a zero tolerance policy so had to act. A short suspension would be appropriate in the circumstances. No more than that. That’s on the understanding he appreciates what he said was wrong and has learnt from it.though expected
fair enough, miss the next test ( or even the series ) and we move forward in the knowledge that he has apologised and will not do anything like it again
but as i asked, will that be enough for some
It would be enough for me, although who cares what some people think. The important thing is that he can acknowledge what he said was wrong and that he can do something positive in order to show people that he isn't the same person. A written apology (by someone else) just wont do.
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