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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    As I pointed out before, there are often data reporting lags/snags so single day data can be misleading. 7-day moving averages and weekly totals are more reliable. For the whole UK, as of today, there was a 40% increase in cases on a base of the previous 7 days. Just so you don't go down the Trump hole again, approximately the same number of tests were conducted over the two seven day periods. I think you can infer case numbers are rising. So are hospitalizations and deaths. Albeit the relationships that emerged in 2020 among cases, hospitalizations and deaths are now no longer valid.

    Personally, I think now is a time for caution. Mask-wearing, avoiding congregate settings and social distancing works; both personally and socially. These aren't that hard to do, surely?
    Why don't you stop withe Trump hole crappie. He is and was nothing to me. Why would he be. Similarly you suggested I was a conspiracy theorist. Nothing could be further from the truth. I appreciate what you say about 7 day numbers and I get it. But the initial theory was that numbers would double every 7 days and from your own figures they clearly aren't..... yet. So if the pre-unlock numbers are plateauing I merely suggest that the modellers may be able to project the time of the expected post unlock peak. I gree wearing masks in crowe places is a no brained but if we cannot sort to open up now when will we? The number of vaccines being given is going down and the people choosing not to get them now will still be doing so later when weather will be worse for us and better for it.
    Some people would happily ban nightclubs from ever opening again or pubs and some people are becoming institutionalised and feel they need to do told what too. Its not healthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Similarly you suggested I was a conspiracy theorist. Nothing could be further from the truth.
    From one of your previous posts: "Some of the things this government want to do generally could turn this country into a business wasteland, and their desire to control every facet of peoples lives, made more real than they ever could have dreamed by this pandemic, is making sure it will happen faster."

    That's a conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    From one of your previous posts: "Some of the things this government want to do generally could turn this country into a business wasteland, and their desire to control every facet of peoples lives, made more real than they ever could have dreamed by this pandemic, is making sure it will happen faster."

    That's a conspiracy theory.
    It's not a conspiracy theory except in your internet wired head. It's a opinion. Look it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    It's not a conspiracy theory except in your internet wired head. It's a opinion. Look it up
    Please stop. You don't even realize (apparently) that you are just repeating a form of the NEW World Order conspiracy theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    Please stop. You don't even realize (apparently) that you are just repeating a form of the NEW World Order conspiracy theory.
    you talk some highbrow shite don't you? New world order theory my arse. You're obsessed with conspiracies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    you talk some highbrow shite don't you? New world order theory my arse. You're obsessed with conspiracies.
    You claimed I was a "dimwit" in a previous post. Do you think "highbrow" is a pejorative? Curious.

    You reminded me of: https://gohighbrow.com/portfolio/lea...think-clearly/

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    It's not a conspiracy theory except in your internet wired head. It's a opinion. Look it up
    A theory of a conspiracy not being a conspiracy theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    Why don't you stop withe Trump hole crappie. He is and was nothing to me. Why would he be.
    '"By the way, when you do more testing, you have more cases. We have more cases than anybody because we do more testing than anybody. It's pretty simple," Trump said Friday in the White House Rose Garden.'

    Reference: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...perts-n1228671

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    Quote Originally Posted by az city View Post
    '"By the way, when you do more testing, you have more cases. We have more cases than anybody because we do more testing than anybody. It's pretty simple," Trump said Friday in the White House Rose Garden.'

    Reference: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/don...perts-n1228671
    you must be totally obsessed with him to be able to first remember him saying that and then to be able to put your finger on the exact quote so easily. I'm not. I have no interest in him, his quote his anything else. It will no doubt amaze you to discover that other people hve said the same kind of thing. But you just pop the all in your 'trump hole'
    I was actually referring to something I'd rad which had been stated by a British scientist. It pretty basic actually, if you test more people you'll find more positive.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643

    This makes interesting reading.

    Their numbers suggest that the rate of spread of the infection indicates it is now doubling every 16 days whereas at the end of June it was doubling every 7 days. Seems like it might be leveling out.
    But further down the ONS survey for the 7 day period (Which of course is much better a guide) shows that the rate of infection is actally falling. Make what you will from that.

    But of course the ONS might just be down a trump hole or something. Who knows?

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643

    This makes interesting reading.

    Their numbers suggest that the rate of spread of the infection indicates it is now doubling every 16 days whereas at the end of June it was doubling every 7 days. Seems like it might be leveling out.
    But further down the ONS survey for the 7 day period (Which of course is much better a guide) shows that the rate of infection is actally falling. Make what you will from that.

    But of course the ONS might just be down a trump hole or something. Who knows?
    "Leveling out" as you refer to plateauing would be indicated by no (zero) increase in the numbers testing positive from one test period to the next. Clearly numbers are still rising so there is no "leveling out".

    The current R(t) in Wales is estimated to be above one.

    You are so closed in your views on this that it makes me think of proverbial Bukowski quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643

    This makes interesting reading.

    Their numbers suggest that the rate of spread of the infection indicates it is now doubling every 16 days whereas at the end of June it was doubling every 7 days. Seems like it might be leveling out.
    But further down the ONS survey for the 7 day period (Which of course is much better a guide) shows that the rate of infection is actally falling. Make what you will from that.

    But of course the ONS might just be down a trump hole or something. Who knows?
    Doubling every 16 days doesn't sound like levelling out to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Doubling every 16 days doesn't sound like levelling out to me.
    better than every 9 days like they said before

    so the curve is not as steep, some might say its the start of the curve starting to flatten

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    better than every 9 days like they said before

    so the curve is not as steep, some might say its the start of the curve starting to flatten
    Yes, better in the sense that it's getting larger less quickly. But that's quite a few steps from levelling out.

    Some might say that now is the time for England to chuck their masks in the bin. Some might.

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    Re: Coronavirus update

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-52380643

    This makes interesting reading.

    Their numbers suggest that the rate of spread of the infection indicates it is now doubling every 16 days whereas at the end of June it was doubling every 7 days. Seems like it might be leveling out.
    But further down the ONS survey for the 7 day period (Which of course is much better a guide) shows that the rate of infection is actally falling. Make what you will from that.

    But of course the ONS might just be down a trump hole or something. Who knows?
    That shows that for every person getting infected in Wales more than two are contracting Covid in England. As you say, interesting reading.

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