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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Mark Meadows @RepMarkMeadows 18m

    BREAKING: The House Intel Committee voted to release the classified memo related to FISA and surveillance abuses. It now goes to the President. Outstanding work from Chairman Nunes.

    We're one step closer to the public rightfully seeing the very same memo we did. #ReleaseTheMemo

    https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/s...20865287327744
    So now we find out that Nunes the stormbringer has not even read the intelligence on which his memo is based. The sooner this shabby bit of political theatre gets aired so that it has some degree of proper scrutiny the better.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So now we find out that Nunes the stormbringer has not even read the intelligence on which his memo is based. The sooner this shabby bit of political theatre gets aired so that it has some degree of proper scrutiny the better.
    Are you saying he's made it all up? That the evidence doesn't even exist?

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Are you saying he's made it all up? That the evidence doesn't even exist?
    A cocktail of facts, spin and untruth. The benefit of deliberately misinterpreting classified information of course is that you cannot expose that information to disprove it.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    A cocktail of facts, spin and untruth. The benefit of deliberately misinterpreting classified information of course is that you cannot expose that information to disprove it.
    But the facts have to exist right, otherwise there would be chaos. It is my understanding that all of this is based on the preliminary findings of the inspector general, and his full report is due for release sometime around March.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    But the facts have to exist right, otherwise there would be chaos. It is my understanding that all of this is based on the preliminary findings of the inspector general, and his full report is due for release sometime around March.
    I understand that there is also a Democrat alternative memo based on those facts. Presumably you want that one released as well at the same time so we can see both sides of the argument and reach conclusions.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I understand that there is also a Democrat alternative memo based on those facts. Presumably you want that one released as well at the same time so we can see both sides of the argument and reach conclusions.
    They can't just release it, they have to follow a process, the same one that the Nunes memo went through. I am sure we will see it soon enough

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    I understand that there is also a Democrat alternative memo based on those facts. Presumably you want that one released as well at the same time so we can see both sides of the argument and reach conclusions.
    Trump has blocked the release of that one.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Trump has blocked the release of that one.
    Perhaps he didn't think it vindicated him as much as the one that "vindicated" him.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Trump has blocked the release of that one.
    But in a letter to the committee's chairman, White House Counsel Don McGahn said Mr Trump had decided against approving public release of the Democratic memo "because the memorandum contains numerous properly classified passages".

    A separate letter, from FBI chief Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, also said releasing the memo would create national security concerns.

  10. #10

    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Trump has blocked the release of that one.
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump 2 hours ago

    The Democrats sent a very political and long response memo which they knew, because of sources and methods (and more), would have to be heavily redacted, whereupon they would blame the White House for lack of transparency. Told them to re-do and send back in proper form!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...48831789797381

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    But the facts have to exist right, otherwise there would be chaos. It is my understanding that all of this is based on the preliminary findings of the inspector general, and his full report is due for release sometime around March.
    Also are you saying that Republican staffers for Nunes who wrote the memo a couple of weeks ago were using the Inspector General report at whatever stage of drafting it was rather than the evidence released to the Congressional committee? If so why not just wait until the preliminary report was released rather than codding one up themselves.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Also are you saying that Republican staffers for Nunes who wrote the memo a couple of weeks ago were using the Inspector General report at whatever stage of drafting it was rather than the evidence released to the Congressional committee? If so why not just wait until the preliminary report was released rather than codding one up themselves.
    Maybe they have sexed up the memo just a little bit, to get ahead of current events? I've no doubt the OIG report is going to be damning, as will further investigations into the FBI, DOJ and the Clintons. In saying that, somebody should realise that they do need to declassify the underlying evidence in order to satisfy people like you, and the other diehard Democrats.

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    Re: Storm brewing in Washington DC

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Maybe they have sexed up the memo just a little bit, to get ahead of current events? I've no doubt the OIG report is going to be damning, as will further investigations into the FBI, DOJ and the Clintons. In saying that, somebody should realise that they do need to declassify the underlying evidence in order to satisfy people like you, and the other diehard Democrats.
    One man's sexing up is another Trump appointed FBI Director's false narrative it would appear. I still favour the publish and be damned route though.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...because-it-has

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