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    Re: Wales v England

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    I can't see any reason that it wasn't a knock on.
    I also think it was a knock on - but all four officials at the match felt it had been knocked backwards onto the English player.

    Two days later after a media storm the referee (allegedly) accepts he got that wrong.

    The incident also highlights a few ambiguities in the law book (especially about control of the ball), and the fact that most pundits and fans are experts on custom and practice, but ignorant of what the laws actually say. Jeremy Guscott summarised it well.

    If it was totally clear cut there wouldn't be tens of thousands of wannabe referees still arguing the toss on social media! But yes, Wales had some luck with the calls.

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    Re: Wales v England

    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    I also think it was a knock on - but all four officials at the match felt it had been knocked backwards onto the English player.

    Two days later after a media storm the referee (allegedly) accepts he got that wrong.

    The incident also highlights a few ambiguities in the law book (especially about control of the ball), and the fact that most pundits and fans are experts on custom and practice, but ignorant of what the laws actually say. Jeremy Guscott summarised it well.

    If it was totally clear cut there wouldn't be tens of thousands of wannabe referees still arguing the toss on social media! But yes, Wales had some luck with the calls.
    Martin Johnson was the perfect example of this on the weekend when he said "by the letter of the law its not a knock on, but 98 times out of 100 its given"

    Did Wales get some luck? Certainly, but like you said Itoje should have been carded & wasn't. The fact of the matter is it was even going into the last 20 minutes and Wales won it with ease, you can't give away the number of penalties England did and expect to win the game.

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