Simic gone

[Former Labour leader]

https://x.com/CardiffCityFC/status/1...weak6WLEA&s=19

[Underhill1980]

The strangest signing I think we’ve ever made. What a waste of money.

[Hilts]

Tsunoda similar. Both crazy. Loaned to Tan's Belgian clubs.

I wonder if we will buy and send players there this season?

[Rjk]

Tsunoda similar. Both crazy. Loaned to Tan's Belgian clubs.

I wonder if we will buy and send players there this season?

it's not crazy, it's an entirely valid approach, plenty of other clubs do it.
Hasnt worked out for us yet, but that doesn't mean it won't.

Tsunoda has done very well in his 2 spells in Belgium, if he hadn't have been injured in-between he'd probably have been in the first team by now, or sold at a profit.

Simic didn't work out in Belgium, again hampered by injury, but if he does well on this loan we can either flip him at a profit or have a new striker waiting in the wings.

[Underhill1980]

it's not crazy, it's an entirely valid approach, plenty of other clubs do it.
Hasnt worked out for us yet, but that doesn't mean it won't.

Tsunoda has done very well in his 2 spells in Belgium, if he hadn't have been injured in-between he'd probably have been in the first team by now, or sold at a profit.

Simic didn't work out in Belgium, again hampered by injury, but if he does well on this loan we can either flip him at a profit or have a new striker waiting in the wings.

We were desperate for an injection of something up front last season. Nothing to lose, didn’t play him. Strange.

[Trigger]

it's not crazy, it's an entirely valid approach, plenty of other clubs do it.
Hasnt worked out for us yet, but that doesn't mean it won't.

Tsunoda has done very well in his 2 spells in Belgium, if he hadn't have been injured in-between he'd probably have been in the first team by now, or sold at a profit.

Simic didn't work out in Belgium, again hampered by injury, but if he does well on this loan we can either flip him at a profit or have a new striker waiting in the wings.

For clubs of our size spending £m on simic and then loaning him out when we ourselves needed a striker was odd.

If we buy someone for a 100k and do it, it makes sense.

[J R Hartley]

it's not crazy, it's an entirely valid approach, plenty of other clubs do it.
Hasnt worked out for us yet, but that doesn't mean it won't.

Tsunoda has done very well in his 2 spells in Belgium, if he hadn't have been injured in-between he'd probably have been in the first team by now, or sold at a profit.

Simic didn't work out in Belgium, again hampered by injury, but if he does well on this loan we can either flip him at a profit or have a new striker waiting in the wings.

The loan includes an obligation to buy so it’s unlikely to turn a profit as how he does this season is largely irrelevant. We may have put down caveats on the fee depending on how he does this season but this is Cardiff City so I’d guess thats was most unlikely. After the season he had last year it’s more likely to be another loss.

You’re talking like we are a premier league club with cash to burn and can just make signings with no intention of using them in our first team in the hope they will come good in the future and turn a profit.

We are a club that’s making losses year on year, who don’t spend a lot on transfer fees and so if we are going to be making 7 figure sum signings I don’t think it’s unfair for fans to expect these players to be ready for our first team, not some fanciful “investment” hope that we bugger off to Belgium and we keep burning our fingers on time and time again,

[J R Hartley]

For clubs of our size spending £m on simic and then loaning him out when we ourselves needed a striker was odd.

If we buy someone for a 100k and do it, it makes sense.

Spot on. RJK has played too much football manager.

[splott parker]

Any signing that we actually pay money for has to be first team material in the current situation at our club. You’d never buy anything for your house that was more expensive than any other appliance you’ve got, then lend it to your next door neighbour to see if it improves things in their house before deciding whether to have it back.

[goats]

The strangest signing I think we’ve ever made. What a waste of money.

He’s got money to blow it’s fine…..

[Carl Dale's Mole]

Poor man’s Javi Guerra

[pomeroy]

Tsunoda similar. Both crazy. Loaned to Tan's Belgian clubs.

I wonder if we will buy and send players there this season?

I watched Tsunoda play two games for the under 21’s last season and he looked a decent player. Isaac Davies certainly rated him at Kortijk. Injury free he could be one to watch!!

[the other bob wilson]

Maybe the author of the article i read saying we were the worst run club in the EFL had a point.

[Des Parrot]

I’m at a loss. If this had happened in any other business, the person instigating the purchase (of such a value) would also be gone. Incompetence, no other word for it.

[Rjk]

I’m at a loss. If this had happened in any other business, the person instigating the purchase (of such a value) would also be gone. Incompetence, no other word for it.

I think that depends how much of a hit we end up taking on him

[J R Hartley]

Any signing that we actually pay money for has to be first team material in the current situation at our club. You’d never buy anything for your house that was more expensive than any other appliance you’ve got, then lend it to your next door neighbour to see if it improves things in their house before deciding whether to have it back.

Exactly. It wasn’t long ago we were under a transfer embargo. Clubs in our position shouldn’t be spending a million pound on a player and never given them a chance ffs. As Des says, it’s utter incompetence. The recruitment under the Tan regime has been a shambles for years.

[Jamsarnie]

The loan includes an obligation to buy...

Even this is a bit hasty and ill thought out. Simic signed his four year Cardiff City contract in August 2024 which means his wage costs can be excluded from the financial fair play calculations in League 1.

Let's say he has a decent season on loan at Karlsruher and Cardiff fail to get promoted, we'll be ruing the fact we sold him whilst no doubt still including Kion Etete's wages in the FFP submission/s.

I'd be waiting until the season is over before making a call on a permanent transfer. Then again, this is Cardiff City.

[Rjk]

Even this is a bit hasty and ill thought out. Simic signed his four year Cardiff City contract in August 2024 which means his wage costs can be excluded from the financial fair play calculations in League 1.

Let's say he has a decent season on loan at Karlsruher and Cardiff fail to get promoted, we'll be ruing the fact we sold him whilst no doubt still including Kion Etete's wages in the FFP submission/s.

I'd be waiting until the season is over before making a call on a permanent transfer. Then again, this is Cardiff City.

we don't know for sure what's in the loan contract, I've seen it reported as an "obligation to buy" and also an "option to buy" both by itk twitter accounts that I wouldn't trust to tell me the weather outside the window.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

it's not crazy, it's an entirely valid approach, plenty of other clubs do it.
Hasnt worked out for us yet, but that doesn't mean it won't.

Name on Champ club that's spent 2.5m on a striker that wasn't ready, that's come off.

It is lunacy to spend that much on a striker that they knew wasn't ready. It should be a sackable offence for Deboys, it seems he has a promotion

[Rjk]

Name on Champ club that's spent 2.5m on a striker that wasn't ready, that's come off.

It is lunacy to spend that much on a striker that they knew wasn't ready. It should be a sackable offence for Deboys, it seems he has a promotion

you're obsessed with deboys I think 90% of the time he's been mentioned on here it's in your posts.
in reality we don't know what's going on inside the club and where to apportion blame/credit for any signings.

as for Simic we bought him for €2m so what £1.75m? and the club obviously thought he had potential to increase in value. if we end up getting that much from the German club from a loan fee and future transfer fee then it would hardly have been a disaster. even if we end up eating a modest loss it's worth the gamble from time to time for the time that it comes off and you make a lot of money.

I'm not saying it's been a successful move btw it's more like a side investment that hasn't delivered any return yet. he was clearly never in our plans for the first team for this season.

[splott parker]

you're obsessed with deboys I think 90% of the time he's been mentioned on here it's in your posts.
in reality we don't know what's going on inside the club and where to apportion blame/credit for any signings.

as for Simic we bought him for €2m so what £1.75m? and the club obviously thought he had potential to increase in value. if we end up getting that much from the German club from a loan fee and future transfer fee then it would hardly have been a disaster. even if we end up eating a modest loss it's worth the gamble from time to time for the time that it comes off and you make a lot of money.

I'm not saying it's been a successful move btw it's more like a side investment that hasn't delivered any return yet. he was clearly never in our plans for the first team for this season.

Your last paragraph sums it up though, doesn’t it. Us, spending that type of fee, the player has to be in the first team plans as soon as the ink is dry on the contract.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

you're obsessed with deboys I think 90% of the time he's been mentioned on here it's in your posts.
in reality we don't know what's going on inside the club and where to apportion blame/credit for any signings.

as for Simic we bought him for €2m so what £1.75m? and the club obviously thought he had potential to increase in value. if we end up getting that much from the German club from a loan fee and future transfer fee then it would hardly have been a disaster. even if we end up eating a modest loss it's worth the gamble from time to time for the time that it comes off and you make a lot of money.

I'm not saying it's been a successful move btw it's more like a side investment that hasn't delivered any return yet. he was clearly never in our plans for the first team for this season.

He's quite happy to take praise

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...nsfer-31115935

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Your last paragraph sums it up though, doesn’t it. Us, spending that type of fee, the player has to be in the first team plans as soon as the ink is dry on the contract.

Bingo, you can't spend millions on a player that isn't ready when we had so many holes to fill

[Bobby Dandruff]

The strangest signing I think we’ve ever made. What a waste of money.

21st century Godfrey Ingram.

Very, very odd.