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Illegal immigrants in the chanel
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310
I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.
And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310
I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.
And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?
It's our colonial past for a lot of them mr x , we are seen as the mother country due to our time when we ruled the waves , same reason why so many head to holland
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I saw this on the news earlier, on chanel number 5.
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CCFCC3PO
I saw this on the news earlier, on chanel number 5.
The perfume ?
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SLUDGE FACTORY
The perfume ?
lol
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
lol
Could this be a whoosh? :hehe:
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SLUDGE FACTORY
It's our colonial past for a lot of them mr x , we are seen as the mother country due to our time when we ruled the waves , same reason why so many head to holland
No its not. it's because they see this country as a soft touch, but more to blame are the french and others that deliberately don't take the action they should because they hope that the problem will go away when they get to the channel (Not the perfume lol)
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Originally Posted by
xsnaggle
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-52605310
I really struggle to understand this. Why don't they take them back to France/Belgium and disembark them there? That is where the came from. Those countries have an obligation in international and European Law to either give them refugee status or return to where the came from. They should be processed at the point at which they enter the EU.
And why is it they all want to come to UK? Whats wrong with Spain or France or Italy or Belgium or Greece?
Do they all want to come to the UK? Obviously the ones heading here do, but not all refugees want to come here. Spain and France and Italy and Belgium and Greece get refugees as well.
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xsnaggle
No its not. it's because they see this country as a soft touch
I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?
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Eric the Half a Bee
Do they all want to come to the UK? Obviously the ones heading here do, but not all refugees want to come here. Spain and France and Italy and Belgium and Greece get refugees as well.
Could the dominance of American culture have an impact aswell? Odds are they're more likely to have knowledge of English as a result ahead of Greek/Flemish/Italian
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Eric the Half a Bee
I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?
:hehe:
Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.
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CCFCC3PO
:hehe:
Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.
There are many ways to earn a lvivng with a legit NI Number as I'm sure people know.
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Eric the Half a Bee
I hear this a lot. Is it because they can get our benefits or our jobs?
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
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But the point is the country they arrive in should deal with them but these European countries just let them pass through happy in the knowledge that the sooner they let them go they sooner it won't be their problem.
So if the get here why don't those countries cover the cost to the UK?
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And why don't the ships take them back to their point of embarkation?
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xsnaggle
There are many ways to earn a lvivng with a legit NI Number as I'm sure people know.
How does an illegal immigrant get a legit NI Number?
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Tuerto
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
Do you think that if you put an infinite number of monkeys in an infinitely sized room, and an infinite number of smart phones, that they would be able to recreate any of his postings? Or, do you think they would get the complete works of Shakespeare done first and then call it a day?
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CCFCC3PO
How does an illegal immigrant get a legit NI Number?
It will cost you to find out. But presumably the same way probably that they get across the channel in lorries, except when the driver gets arrested and changed with manslaughter or something.
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Originally Posted by
Tuerto
There seems to be a bit of a pattern to Mr Snaggles posts.
What pattern would that be?
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xsnaggle
It will cost you to find out. But presumably the same way probably that they get across the channel in lorries, except when the driver gets arrested and changed with manslaughter or something.
I wonder if manslaughter is a good lorry driver.
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CCFCC3PO
:hehe:
Of course, being "illegal" immigrants it must be dead easy to get on the dole. What with the absence of a NI Number.
Benefits helpline: Hello.
Illegal: I'd like to claim £29,900 a year, please?
Benefits helpline: Certainly sir, can I have your NI number, please?
Illegal: I don't have one.
Benefits helpline: Ah, what is your name then, please?
Illegal: I'm not telling you.
Benefits helpline: Are you an illegal immigrant?
Illegal: Yes, but don't tell anyone.
Benefits helpline: Fine. Go to your nearest jobcentre, ask for the manager and they will show you to the pot of gold room where you can help yourself to as much free cash as you like. I'll give you a special password.
Refugees can get minimal handouts. There have been very rare cases where they've had quite lavish dwellings in which to live, but those have suited all as temporary measures. The reality is they get very, very little.
Legally arriving immigrants cannot claim benefits for, according to the government's own site, "a qualifying period". Who knows what that is. One thing is certain, the government decides what that is. Those who arrive legally, who are not refugees, either have the money to stay here or have work (or a very solid promise of it at least).
It always amuses me when people say we need to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country. They're here illegally, we don't know they're here. If we knew they were coming we'd be able to stop them. Britain has 20,000 miles of coastline, near enough. It's impossible to police it all.
When it comes to illegal immigrants, most people haven't got a clue.
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CCFCC3PO
I wonder if manslaughter is a good lorry driver.
can't answer then so pick on the words?typical. lol
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xsnaggle
And why don't the ships take them back to their point of embarkation?
:hehe: Just getting out the popcorn. This could be quite amusing.
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xsnaggle
can't answer then so pick on the words?typical. lol
Sorry. Back to my question, how do people get legitimate NI Numbers?
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Originally Posted by
Eric the Half a Bee
Benefits helpline: Hello.
Illegal: I'd like to claim £29,900 a year, please?
Benefits helpline: Certainly sir, can I have your NI number, please?
Illegal: I don't have one.
Benefits helpline: Ah, what is your name then, please?
Illegal: I'm not telling you.
Benefits helpline: Are you an illegal immigrant?
Illegal: Yes, but don't tell anyone.
Benefits helpline: Fine. Go to your nearest jobcentre, ask for the manager and they will show you to the pot of gold room where you can help yourself to as much free cash as you like. I'll give you a special password.
Refugees can get minimal handouts. There have been very rare cases where they've had quite lavish dwellings in which to live, but those have suited all as temporary measures. The reality is they get very, very little.
Legally arriving immigrants cannot claim benefits for, according to the government's own site, "a qualifying period". Who knows what that is. One thing is certain, the government decides what that is. Those who arrive legally, who are not refugees, either have the money to stay here or have work (or a very solid promise of it at least).
It always amuses me when people say we need to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country. They're here illegally, we don't know they're here. If we knew they were coming we'd be able to stop them. Britain has 20,000 miles of coastline, near enough. It's impossible to police it all.
When it comes to illegal immigrants, most people haven't got a clue.
I understand all that but the keep coming because they hope that eventually they will be allowed to stay and then get the benefits, and this is born out for them by the stories that get back to them, whether they are right or wrong.